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kach22i 09-12-2005 02:35 PM

Fluoride
 
Concerns about floride are reaching new heights.

http://nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/Press%20Release.%20Fluoride.htm

PRESS RELEASE FOR AUGUST 19, 2005

EPA Unions Call for Nationwide Moratorium on Fluoridation,
Congressional Hearing on Adverse Effects, Youth Cancer Cover Up

Eleven EPA employee unions representing over 7000 environmental and
public health professionals of the Civil Service have called for a
moratorium on drinking water fluoridation programs across the country,
and have asked EPA management to recognize fluoride as posing a serious
risk of causing cancer in people. The unions acted following
revelations of an apparent cover-up of evidence from Harvard School of
Dental Medicine linking fluoridation with elevated risk of a fatal bone
cancer in young boys.

The unions sent letters to key Congressional committees asking Congress
to legislate a moratorium pending a review of all the science on the
risks and benefits of fluoridation. The letters cited the weight of
evidence supporting a classification of fluoride as a likely human
carcinogen, which includes other epidemiology results similar to those
in the Harvard study, animal studies, and biological reasons why
fluoride can reasonably be expected to cause the bone cancer –
osteosarcoma – seen in young boys and test animals. The unions also
pointed out recent work by Richard Maas of the Environmental Quality
Institute, University of North Carolina that links increases in lead
levels in drinking water systems to use of silicofluoride fluoridating
agents with chloramines disinfectant.

The letter to EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson asked him to issue a
public warning in the form of an advanced notice of proposed rulemaking
setting the health-based drinking water standard for fluoride at zero,
as it is for all known or probable human carcinogens, pending a
recommendation from a National Academy of Sciences’ National Research
Council committee. That committee’s work is not expected to be done
before 2006.

The unions also asked Congress and EPA’s enforcement office, or the
Department of Justice, to look into reasons why the Harvard study
director, Chester Douglass, failed to report the seven-fold increased
risk seen in the work he oversaw, and instead wrote to the National
Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, the federal agency that
funded the Harvard study, saying there was no link between fluoridation
and osteosarcoma. Douglass sent the same negative report to the
National Research Council committee studying possible changes in EPA’s
drinking water standards for fluoride.

The unions who signed the letters represent EPA employees from across
the nation, including laboratory scientists in Ohio, Oklahoma and
Michigan, regulatory support scientists and other workers at EPA
headquarters in Washington, D.C. and science and regulatory workers in
Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Atlanta, and San Francisco. They are
affiliated with the National Treasury Employees Union, the American
Federation of Government Employees, Engineers and Scientists of
California/International Federation of Professional and Technical
Engineers, and the National Association of Government Employee/Service
Employees International Union.

The unions’ letter is online at
http://nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/fluoridesummary.htm

FOR INFORMATION CONTACT:
Dr. William Hirzy, Vice-President
NTEU Chapter 280
Phone(cell) 202-285-0498


Note:
At a wedding a few weeks ago my aunt mentioned that
fluoride in tooth paste causes problems with the
nearest gland (the thyroid) which in turn causes
weight problems in many people.

techweenie 09-12-2005 02:38 PM

I know some/most of you guys are too young to remember, but in the 50s, the tinfoil hat crowd was convinced fluoride was part of the Commie world domination plot.

kach22i 09-12-2005 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
I know some/most of you guys are too young to remember, but in the 50s, the tinfoil hat crowd was convinced fluoride was part of the Commie world domination plot.
Irony is they could of been right.;)

There is a very remote chance that the EPA (and it's union), which has been laid to waste by the Bush administration, deflowered and hung out to dry, is trying to get even.

Of course this would have to be a "right-wing" conspiracy theory, one I am not qualified to start.:cool:

competentone 09-12-2005 02:47 PM

Not sure about the cancer or thyroid problems, but do know that sodium fluoride (that's what is in your toothpaste and what they add to city water supplies) is a deadly poison.

Two grams of the stuff will kill most adults -- that's about the amount in two tubes of toothpaste.

Toothpaste is probably safe to use, as long as you are very careful and don't swallow. I would suggest Tom's natural toothpaste -- their fluoride-free line -- for any children young enough to be tempted to eat/swallow it.

I don't, and would not suggest that anyone drink fluoridated water for any extended period of time. It might be in the "parts per million" in the water, but, depending on how much water you drink, that can start adding up to significant amounts over time.

competentone 09-12-2005 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
I know some/most of you guys are too young to remember, but in the 50s, the tinfoil hat crowd was convinced fluoride was part of the Commie world domination plot.
Probably could be considered more of a Nazi "revenge" plot than a communist (Russian) one. But since both systems answer to the same master, I guess it really doesn't make too much difference who we blame...

dhoward 09-12-2005 03:38 PM

"Mandrake, do you know why I only drink pure grain alcohol and rainwater?..."

rrpjr 09-12-2005 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
I know some/most of you guys are too young to remember, but in the 50s, the tinfoil hat crowd was convinced fluoride was part of the Commie world domination plot.
Some people simply thought it was bad for you. And some presented tons of scientific evidence to prove it: that ingesting sodium fluoride, essentially a rat poison, was not only the least effective means of introducing fluoride into one's mouth, but that it accumulated in the bones with serious long-term health effects. In addition, the sodium fluoride most often used in municipal water supplies is a run-off product of the aluminum industry. I've always marveled how this issue has failed to catch on with environmentalists and new-agers.

If people want to "enjoy" the disputable and short-term effects of fluoride (many studies conclude it has no positive effect on dental structures after one's youth, and even this effect is greatly exaggerated) why we can't those people just buy it over the counter (which labels strongly warn one to rinse and spit, not drink!) -- or get a government coupon, if you must. Not sure why we all must be forced to consume it.


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