Underground economy, dont pay taxes, dont use credit, cash only. Its tough but if enough people do it think about what would happen.

Get a couple dozen peeps together plan a road trip to washington pack nothing but evil assult rifles and lots of loaded magazines, have a plane fly over dc airspace and flush all the politicos into the streets, start mowing all of them down and instant revolution. repeat as often as necessary.

Problem is in order to start a revolution you need to be willing to lose everything, there are not enough people like that around to get anything done.

Yep. :eek:

And if nothing is done I can pretty much guarantee that they will all disappear. We're already on that road...

It's all about personal responsibility Skip. If someone holds up Lott as a good example and we all know he's a bad example, and with gravy, he's gone on the talk show circuit saying how sad he is about bush ignoring him, yeah, I've got to point that out.

and it fits with the thread, which is about revolution. I don't want racists leading our country, and I'm not one of those "he didn't really mean it" apologists, which to me are the worst kind of all as they softly endorse the originator.

I like to stand up for what I know is right, simple as that.

what about a for-profit designed from the start to do good...?

Naw, the guys that do that are only looking for a smoke screen to hide their oportunistic profiteering:)

LOL! SmileWavy these were dropped off in the first 10 minutes of the week long drive at Hip Chic in Jersey.

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That's awesome, the people that donated those really stepped up! How were sales:)

Thanks Len, I was pretty jazzed, but the best part is the smile on a girl's face as she dumps her doll(s) in the bin. You could see they were really proud of what they were doing. Last post as now I'm hijacking this thread :( but sales were very good. I think the model will work. I will tell you that there is no substitute for talking with a store owner who has been selling your stuff for a while. Man you learn a lot from your direct customers!

Shaun- You really do think he's a racists? Because of the Strom comment?

Have I missed your posts calling out Robert Byrd?

- Skip

I don't recall anyone holding Byrd up as an example for us all. Please send me a link to that post and I'll honor it.

FYI, Lott has a long history of racism. run a few google searches, it's not a one-time thing.

One word.
Rollerball....

Mule - a revolution has to have the slightest ability to be carried out or it is just piss'n in the wind (upstream). Your idea, albeit hardhitting would never take hold due in part of the powers that be are greased.

Start at a small level and build on it. Local school board or zoning commision. Gain credibility and excitment.

Only one way to eat an elephant - one bite at a time.

"Solyent Green is PEOPLE!"

When the Revolution Comes
 

When the revolution comes

Some of us will catch it on TV

With chicken hanging from our mouths

You'll know it's the revolution

Because there won't be no commercials

When the revolution comes



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Depends upon who "we're" (or we are) are.

Yes, the concentration of wealth is smaller in this country than some time ago. But those who would revolt in any other country at any other time, are far too complacent and satisfied with their material goods to care much to revolt in this country. Those who have no material goods are usually very poor (like the poor in New Orleans) and have very few voices, lest their own voice, in their favor.

In short, we're too dumbed down to have a revolt in this country. Bankruptcy and disenfranchisement will occur long before lighted torches are raised.

but a question is, what is the "lighted torch" of the 21st century?

Strangely enough, the very folks that advocate the things like good, schools, better infrastructure, etc...are the very ones who refuse to allow changes that might fix them. They admit public schools are failures, yet aadvocate doing the same things that we have done for decades. Virtually prohibit competition, maintain as much federal control as possible, but continue to throw more money at a system that has never worked well.

The reason that the current administration must "throw" money at the New Orleans situation is obvious. With a hostile press, they know that whichever way they go...they will be wrong. Be fiscally conservative...and they are called racist, etc.....Spend the money and they are irresponsible.

What do liberals expect after advocating a welfare state...for people that have never had to accept responsibility for their actions in their lifetime to suddenly do so in a crisis?...Hardly....

And what do liberals expect after years of their buying these folks votes with pork and social programs...that the other party will step up a put the same folks on a starvation diet ...ensuring that they will never be a majority party again?

If people want to fix things like this...a revolution is not needed...they must start in their own communities. Fix your own schools with your own money. Don't use illegals for labor etc..that undercuts the economy. Elect fiscal conservatives..and those who would aadvocate alternatives to the current public schools (vouchers, etc)...let competition fix the problems...as it always does when allowed to.

Your (and my) society reflects a good democracy - it is more or less acceptable to everyone. Mind you, everyone wants to tinker around the edges, because it is no-one's ideal.

It'd have to get a hell of a lot worse for it to ever create a situation where the torches are lit.

I'm actually with Fint - the way to improve things is probably on home turf. I might not agree on how to fix it though ;)

Divestment.

Remember when USC did it to South Africa as did several other US-based universities? That action held a large impact upon the ending of aparthied.

Divestment can work for the individual as well. However, inasmuch as the individual is concerned, it is the sacrifices of divestment that can or cannot be deemed relative to their well-being.

USC can afford to not have investments in South Africa.

Conversely, can the individual afford to forgo electricity, water, oil and grow their own food? That depends on fortitude.

It has been done, however.

And not only by nutcases who leave bombs in mailboxes.