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classic imperialism

Any one else read the writeup in Wall Street News on Friday about how US involvement in Iraq is a classic example of imperialism?

Anyone have a link to it?

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Old 09-26-2005, 11:51 AM
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I bet we could sum up their entire article with seven bumper stickers.
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I bet we could sum up their entire article with seven bumper stickers.
I'll see your seven bumper stickers and raise you a confederate flag and a yellow magnetic ribbon sticker made in China...
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Old 09-26-2005, 12:30 PM
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Yes!! Exactly the reply I was hoping for!! Seriously, that totally makes all of this time in PPOT worth it.

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hey, now, no reason to resort to personal attacks... haven't you seen celeb jeopardy snl skits?

And, I do have M:TG cards and a 12-sided die. My blue/green deck cannot be beat.
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Yes!! Exactly the reply I was hoping for!! Seriously, that totally makes all of this time in PPOT worth it.

The day is mine!

Does this mean you have finally graduated from diapers to a pee pot, young fella?
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Remind me not to make inquiring threads again.
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Here ya go sweetheart...

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No Steve, I have not. Wish I had more time for casual reading. If someone posts a link here then I'll read it. I've been using the "I" word here for eons and I don't get a positive reaction. This imperialism thing, as you know, is pretty much in a nutshell the reason America is hated by so many countries around the world. Maybe the Middle Eastern folks have a new reason or a different reason, and maybe not.

Basically, we get our foot into the door of a country, one way or another, whether they like it or not, we change things to be more to our liking, we pretend like it's a loan or a favor, and then we begin the extortion phase. We're pretty much the siole remaining big bully on this world playground, and we're acting just exactly like that in Iraq. Since we are the only remaining Superpower, I wonder if the rest of the kids on the playground are in a position to dethrone us. I think they'd like to, and I think we're vulnerable to that.

Thanks, Dubya. For giving them the justification, motivation and financial opportunity to take my country down a peg. I think it's gonna happen. I think Dubya's going to go down in history as the straw that broke the camel's back.
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Yep, thatks. Okay, I read it. It puts a good spin on our training of military personnel elsewhere. It assumes that training will be used for good and not for evil. It specifically sets aside Iraq because its subject is small-scale training groups. But it also does not mention our good intentions when we trained Mr. Bin Laden and his group.

I'm not anti-democracy at all. To the degree this tactic helps flegling democracies, that's great.
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But it also does not mention our good intentions when we trained Mr. Bin Laden and his group.
Sorry Sup.

Small correction: Throughout the Afghan war, we provided ZERO support to Osama. Not that we didn't want to, but he would have none of it, nor did he need it, having very deep pockets himself.

This is pretty well known. I suggest reading Holy War, Inc. by Peter Bergen. Pretty concise biography of Osama and his Al Qaeda career.

We did, however provide funds to lots of other Mujadeen groups which ultimately became buddies with the Taliban after the Soviets left the country. I think those groups later regreted chosing the Taliban as allies.
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Sounds like Kaplan is affirming the consequent there.
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This imperialism thing.... nutshell.. reason America is hated by so many countries around the world.


We're pretty much the siole remaining big bully on this world playground,

we are the only remaining Superpower, rest of the kids on the playground are in a position to dethrone us. I think they'd like to

Thanks, Dubya. For giving them the justification, motivation and financial opportunity to take my country down a peg.
Another clue less Liberal...don'tcha know if it weren't for Americas Imperialistic ways you wouldn't be livin as large as U do...so go turn in your SUV keys along with your Porsche and House keys... and give it all to the poor Taliban...

Liberals who whine about how bad America is are hypocrits....if they were honest Liberals they would be living like Teddy Kozinski was up in Montana...they would walk the walk and not talk the talk while drivin their gas guzzlin SUV's...So Daddy you got NO CREDIBILITY here...go find somebody who will listen....maybe PWD72S will.....
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So our choice is (1) conservative, (2) Teddy Kozinski, or (3) NO CREDIBILITY

Nice, very nice
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We will stay the course, we will complete the job in Iraq. [8/4/05]
We will stay the course *** We’re just going to stay the course. [12/15/03]
And my message today to those in Iraq is: We’ll stay the course. [4/13/04]
And that’s why we’re going to stay the course in Iraq. [4/16/04]
And so we’ve got tough action in Iraq. But we will stay the course. [4/5/04]

Well, hey, listen, we’ve never been “stay the course” [10/21/06]

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I ain't got no SUV. The Simplicyt Movement does sound good. My friends who have quit their jobs, paid off their mortgages and grow their own food are the happiest people I know. They're off the treadmill, and their faces just glow.

And another thing. Two. I'm not so sure liberals whine about America more than conservatives. We certainly don't love our country less. More, I'd say.
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I ain't got no SUV. The Simplicyt Movement does sound good. My friends who have quit their jobs, paid off their mortgages and grow their own food are the happiest people I know. They're off the treadmill, and their faces just glow.

And another thing. Two. I'm not so sure liberals whine about America more than conservatives. We certainly don't love our country less. More, I'd say.

So, to summarize your position:

1) Liberals whine less than conservatives
2) Liberals love their country more than conservatives
3) You have no time to read the news because you are so busy
4) You have time to post 3,000 words on a topic you do not read about

Awesome, dude....
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Colin, your math is understandable considering your understanding of economics. I wrote under 400 words, not 3000. (BTW, a "word" is generally considered to be five characters including spaces and punctuation. But any way you count, you cannot get anywhere near 3000.)

I did not say liberals whine less than conservatives. I said I am not sure liberals whine about America more than conservatives.

Yes, I think liberals love America more than conservatives. Love, that is. As opposed to emphatuation.

And yes, I am fairly busy and take time to read printed material only when I am having a quick, solitary lunch which is not often. I visit here for entertainment, and it is my sole source of that. My shrink thinks my hobbies should look less like work and be more relaxing and sedentary, but I disagree.

But I do appreciate your concern.
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Another clue less Liberal...don'tcha know if it weren't for Americas Imperialistic ways you wouldn't be livin as large as U do...

Now I remember you.

You are really Higgins (Cliff Robertson) from Three Days of the Condor.

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