CEO and Chairman of Chevron Says...

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CONSERVE.....world oil production is 85 million barrels a day...world consumption is 85 million barrels a day....

OIl is a finite resource, and NOBODY knows what the total reserves are in the world, until the world is completely explored. Demand is now equal to production capacity..

He briefily said that Americans are USED to a certain lifestyle and they may not be able to sustain it....and he didin't elorbrate on it either for obvious reasons.

America as the land of plenty, where the power never goes out...is going to be a thing of the past....welcome to the reality of 21st century America.

[bryanthompson]

more fatalist bull*****. We have no clue how much is out there, but every time we find more we're kept from using it.

Can't take 24 square miles off the coast of Cape Cod for windmills, where they are best suited, because Ted Kennedy and Walter Cronkite don't want them in their backyards.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/26/sunday/main560595.shtml
The campaign to stop the wind farms was started by Cape Cod merchants and wealthy landowners. It's also opposed by almost every town government. Sen. Ted Kennedy, who has a home overlooking the proposed wind farm, also opposes the project. So does one of Martha's Vineyard most famous residents, former CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite.

"Our natural treasures should be off limits to industrialization, and Nantucket is one of those treasures," says Cronkite.
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The problem is that they're going to be visible. And they're going to be visible at night and they're going to be visible during the day and they're going to be lit up,"

Find oil at home, great! Let's drill for it. Oh, wait, Liberals hate Caribou.

http://talent.senate.gov/AmericanSound/Articles/murkowski_anwar.htm
Alaska’s experience at the nearby Prudhoe Bay oil field, where the caribou herd has grown to 32,000 animals from about 3,000 prior to oil development, shows that caribou not only can tolerate, but flourish in oil fields. That is especially the case since restrictions will prevent any drilling noise during the two months when the caribou might be present.

Hmm, well, that excuse won't work... Oh, I know, there isn't enough oil to make it worth it anyway!

According to the Energy Information Administration, there is a 50-50 chance that the 1.5 million-acre coastal plain in the refuge holds about 10 billion barrels of economically recoverable oil—enough to produce about 1 million barrels a day for 30 years. This is not an inconsequential field. Such a find would be the largest oil field discovered in the world in the past three decades and would equal nearly one-fifth of America’s likely domestic production in 2010. More importantly, chances are good that the field will yield 16 billion barrels—making it America’s largest field ever. Equally important, at current prices, it represents $15 billion a year that we won’t have to spend on buying oil overseas.

Crap! Ok... well... we don't want to hurt the 'pristine' wilderness of this barren wasteland with our industrialization.
Let's see... ANWR is 19-million acres.

Safeguards in congressional legislation will guarantee that no more than 2,000 acres of all the coastal plain in Alaska will be touched. Directional drilling underground allows oil wells to be placed up to 10 miles apart, preventing disturbance to the animals that breed and graze in between

Let's see... 2,000 acres out of 19,000,000 is hardly .01% of the wildlife refuge. Maybe if it was .001% it would be okay with liberals?

[bryanthompson]

Liberals DO NOT WANT energy independence. If they did, they wouldn't have blocked new refineries being built for the last 30 years

http://www.reason.org/commentaries/moore_20050901.shtml
A new oil refinery has not been built in the United States since 1976. During that time, our gasoline use has increased over 25 percent. The nation's 149 existing refineries have been running at maximum capacity trying to meet record demand and, as a result, not only do we import oil, we actually have to import 10 percent of our daily gasoline from refineries overseas.

When one hurricane shuts down 8 refineries, accounting for 10% of our refining capacity, I say there's a big problem.

[island911]

Originally posted by bryanthompson
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Let's see... ANWR is 19-million acres.
Let's see... 2,000 acres out of 19,000,000 is hardly .01% of the wildlife refuge. Maybe if it was .001% it would be okay with liberals?

Nope.

Liberals are for Bambi, and again' industrialization. ---No balance --No compromise (unless the compromise is a Hybrid Elec for them to get around in .. . then polluting our land with used batteries is okay. . . using fuel to chage the heavy-metal batteries is okay too . ... 'cuz they all mean well. (unlike those evil, efficient, single-fuel users)

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The Liberals are claiming the Oil Companies and Arabs are price gouging the USA...when in fact DEMAND is up to the current capacity to pump...

Take solace Liberals have to fill up their tanks too....

[bryanthompson]

Take solace Liberals have to fill up their tanks too....

Unlike liberals, I find no solace in someone else's pain.

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THe CEO said something else....That energy self sufiency is a pipe dream that the world is now interdepent or is a "flat world" as Tom Friedman describes it....

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NOOOO but when they hurt enough in the wallet ohhh how their song will change....pump that oil will be their mantra....

[island911]

Originally posted by tabs
NOOOO but when they hurt enough in the wallet ohhh how their song will change....pump that oil will be their mantra....

Are you kidding?

More like; "cap those prices" . ..or "Take tax from SUV's to give to the Hondas" (that way they can keep their Honda SUV's going )

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When faced with life altering events, the ideal wanes and the pragmatic prevails....

If that is not the case then they the Liberals like the Lemmings will go over the edge...unfortunately they will drag EVERYBODY in this country over with them....

If U ask Shaun what my opinion is...you will hear that like every other Empire or Great Nation State before it...that ultimately this Nation will fail, that is the ultimate solution...that the US has enter the phase where the Bloom of Wealth has been spent and the different Political factions are fighting over who controls the remaining wealth....and that there isn't enough left for 2 snouts in the trough.. and the side out of the trough would rather ***** on whats left rather than concede. That is a recipe for decline and downfall...

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The solution to the fight at the feeding trough of the public treasury will be an end to the Repblic and Hail to Caesar....and the system will go on....the handwriting is on the wall with what happened in the 2000 election cycle...many proclaimed it was a great victory for democracy....that there wasn't fighting in the streets...but like the Great Compromise of 1820 it is but a temporary respite....

[HardDrive]

That ANWR thing is absurd....

People rant about how Bush is destroying the environment and such, then stick a map in front of them and ask them to point to it on a map, and they can't. Stupid. You would think we wanted to drill in Yellowstone...

Drill that puppy.

[scottmandue]

Let's drill and build more refineries in Nebraska and the North west.
Problem solved!

[bryanthompson]

hurrumph!

[island911]

Originally posted by mikester
Island - you're full of crap with regards to your comments on Batteries polluting more than exhaust gas.

c'mon mikester . . all this ranting at me . ..your making tabs jealous.

Seriously; where did I say (or even imply) that Batteries are polluting MORE than exhaust gas?

What I was getting at, is no one seems to care much if their hybrid car takes twice as much energy to produce and lasts half as long. . .and they don't care where the juice to charge the thing comes from either.

Those buyers sport their Hybrids around like the kid with a new action-hero lunch-box. They really don't care if the thermos is ready to crap-out and leak all over their PB&J . . . nope, as long as the other nerds see him w/it, its all good.

btw, Do you have any idea how inefficient . . . how much entropy is introduced into the cycle of charging a battery, expelling the charge thru a motor and to the ground? Embrace entropy, buddy; 'cuz that's what ya got.

[bryanthompson]

I know I want my car to run on gumdrops and dreams. But then bush stole all the gumdrops

[island911]

Originally posted by mikester
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As it stands now - hybrids ... They get more miles per gallon and emit less pollution from their tailpipe....
Where's the problem?

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Have you not seen the Smart cars? 70mpg for the diesel version, 67mpg for gas. I believe those both beat the best production Honda at 66.

But the point is "Hybrid" is over-rated, as it stand now. It's a bit too Rube Goldberg of a sol'n. Very costly; very system heavy (nothing to go wrong there ). . all to get to almost the same place of some single fuel cars.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by island911
Have you not seen the Smart cars? 70mpg for the diesel version, 67mpg for gas. I believe those both beat the best production Honda at 66.

But the point is "Hybrid" is over-rated, as it stand now. It's a bit too Rube Goldberg of a sol'n. Very costly; very system heavy (nothing to go wrong there ). . all to get to almost the same place of some single fuel cars.

Island, get your facts right. The EPA puts out numbers on fuel economy but Consumer Reports just did a special where the actual real life fuel mileage on these hybrid cars are actually as much as 50% lower than posted. None of these cars get anywhere near 60 mpg in the real world.

My old beater Honda Accord gets 37 mpg on regular fuel. It allows me to drive a 911 when I please. Put Detroit on notice to get 30 plus mpg on most of their cars and America will not use half as much fuel every day.

The ones we need to get off of the road are the forking Hummers, SUV's, Surburban and 4 wheels jacked 4 feet higher in the air.

JoeA

[M.D. Holloway]

That CEO is either stupid or a lier - ExxMo, Chevron, Motiva and Valero refineries are not at 100% cap, heck at best they run at 80%, most of the time they are at 75%. This is by far the biggest scam of the last 10,000 years!

Canada's tar sands has more crude than any place on Earth hands down - they don't even have to drill it, just strip mine it. It is now price effective - before it was prohibitive.

[Peter T.]

Originally posted by Joeaksa

The ones we need to get off of the road are the forking Hummers, SUV's, Surburban and 4 wheels jacked 4 feet higher in the air.

JoeA

Doesn't take a genius to understand that. What I'd like to see is a substantial tax break for owners of high fuel efficiency vehicles - say 30+ mpg. Got to dangle a carrot to change behavior.