Drive with confidence in your abilities, but don't be outwardly full of yourself. A little over the speed limit, in full control of the car (hands firmly at 10 and 2 but arms relaxed), and act like you know where you're going. (bonus points if you actually do) Strong acceleration without flooring it or beating on the car is good...think 3.5-4k RPM upshifts in lower gears. Visibly doing something well and shrugging it off gets bonus points.

I've experimented on this, being a guy a little older than you. Letting it all hang out on onramps gets a shriek or two, maybe a smile...not much more. It turns into a roll of the eyes if you do it too much. Tearing up her road at midnight with an unnecessary redline shift might get a giggle. Meanwhile, just being cool and calm makes them feel safe with you...something to aim for, IMO. Especially when their other friends behind the wheel scare them. Night driving is also a plus, that's something they don't always prefer to do themselves.

Get your shifting down pat. Numerous girls comment on how smooth and talented I am. ;) You don't even need to wow them with double clutching, etc...they won't know what it is. Just don't lurch the car and such.

A German mag did a study and concluded that we naturally drive better with a girl in the car. So leave the showing off for the guys.

okay, those are some pretty good points. How about an ammended statement: College and HS Girls will date older guys, but almost NEVER the other way around; older (35+) women will date younger guys as conquests.

come on, matt. isnt there a certian honey at school you have your sights on? picking up college girls will be a fantasy for the rest of your life. too damn bad, it is only reality while you are actually there. while in high school, chase the high school girls. not the cheerleaders. scan the horizon for the mediocre girl that is oozing with potential. believe me, you dont want to PEAK in highschool, and neither should the women you like. that hotcheerleader will be non existant when the playing field gets level, with age.

this hot pompom chick i chase fruitlessly for 3 years...while visiting texas, i saw her and her...husband, four kids, no shoes, rusted out pickup truck, at a gas station buying a carton of cigs, and half gallon of milk. i was gassing up my mom/s benz, talking to my real estate agent in cali, about my home purchase. her look on her face was priceless, "huh, cliff?" deep down, i LOVED IT!

dont peak in high school.

great advice! At 37, I can almost see the summit. I think 39 is going to be a really good year.

crap I don't even remember 39!

14 to 18 was a mystery, 19-21 was the best, 39 was good, 35 was good too, 19 - 21 was the best (oh, I saud that), 30 had some moments, 42 is holding strong yet 43 could have some potential...

so far 44 is pretty interesting (all 2 weeks of it)

And 50 is limp in the hand....oh what you boyz have to look forward to....and the idiot from Oregun isn't kidding when he says that he's lucky if he doesn't hit his shoes when he takes a leak...

Cliff, to answer your question, no I do not have any girl in particular that I have my sights on. My original plan was just to "meet" a girl somehow, but apparently all of the girls that I have tried having a conversation with seem to be not interested in me. Actually, there are a couple that are fun to talk to, but me being me am too intimidated to ask anyone out. I guess I'm dwelling over the thought of rejection.

Don't be afraid of rejection... If you're worried about rejection, you're probably chasing the wrong girls. I'm only 21, so I'm not a pro in this area at all. But, in HS, i was always afraid of rejection. Looking back only 3 years later, EVERY SINGLE girl I liked (with the exception of my current girlfriend) is pregnant, married, or perpetually drunk.

Hi,

Geez, I'm double your age and wish I had a fake ID that said I was 17 1/2. My job has my driving all over the place during the day and I pass high schools all the time at the end of their day - wow - I don't remember that many god looking hs girls back when I was your age...
Don't flaunt the car, let it passively work for you. When they are in the car know that they won't hurl before you let loose in the canyons. Don't want to mess up the leather.

Dave

Welcome to the machine boy, and what a paradox of a machine it is. Women say they are more attracted to personality than looks, they say they want a "nice" guy, they say they want someone they can talk to like they do their girlfriends, they say they say they say and they say. Trouble is they say too much.

The women I have had the pleasure of companionship with were friends I made during class (HS & College) or ones that I was cordal to but not aggresive at all, friendly but not particurly interested in and actually rather aloft.

The only one that I actually pressed heavy was my exsisting wife. I met her in a bar in Chicago and told her within 5 minutes that we were soulmates and we would be married someday. I was serious, I meant it but I also prefaced by telling her I was going to tell her something that was prehaps the dumbest think to ever tell a women you meet in a bar. The thing is, I knew it to be true - down deep, I knew that she was the one.

I don't suggest you use that tactic but I do say with all due respect you are letting some fine stuff pass your way in the form of underclass girls. I bet that a few sophmores and juniors (even some frosh) would love a go at it. Some might actually be more mature than you think.

Matt, remember my 18 yr old Daughter? She is a very attractive college frosh dating a college senior. When she was a frosh in HS, she had glasses and braces and was rather lean and gawky. A few boys made fun of her but one didn't. He was a senior at the time. They became friends and stayed that way up till recently. Now she is dating him and he has one of the prettiest girls in the University. Of course, he has no clue that she will tear him a new one, but thats another story.

Unfortunitly, you will eventually fall vic to the Axioms of Human Condition...and so it goes ... and so it goes .... and so it goes...

Heeeeeey, that's what you told me too!!! Call me, call me, call me, PLEASE. I can make you much happier! call me!

now thats good advice.

matt i think if you had been coming from the gym, pool hall, or bar you may have been in better shape with them. you were coming back from digging up rocks for what i figure must be collection. they either smelled your fear, saw your bag of prized rocks (although it depends on which bag of stones they saw), or the dirt under your nails from the artifact collection and it soured them.

what you needed was a sturdy type bag of oysters to get them hotter than a mexican's lunch.

Oysters.. good times guys (thinking back at the Marin run and Tomales Bay). By the way, thanks for all of the advice. That's a neat story Lubemaster. You are a wealth of knowledge and experience, my friend, being the "Lubemaster"! The wheel bearing are holding up well from what I can tell with the "Lubemaster" grease I applied. Great stuff.

anotha satisfayd custama...

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'bout sums it up.

Seriously 86-Matt, just think of the encounter as a down-payment for next time you cross paths with one, or both of them (party, library, where ever.) . .then you can go with "oh, hi ... i'm glad you made it back okay...." ;)


:D . ..and then follow up with; "would you help me find my lost puppy? . .. I brought some candy. . . do you like lollie-pops.:eek:

Matt,

Rejection is a part of the game. There are some days when I could successfully ask out any girl, and there are some days when it's just not going to happen.

Oh, and the type of car you drive doesn't matter. I get just as much looks and compliments in my miata as I do in the 911.

You never never ask the obvious - never do a u-turn. you stop and ask for directions - or ask them for a recipe for apple crumble. You have to start with an attitude - like you are fortunate that I have decided to talk to you today - tomorrow may be different... A conversation starter. from there you initiate a conversation - after a little rapport - then go for the close - need a ride into town? Take it from there.