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widebody911 10-26-2005 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by deathpunk dan
I swear...the Porsche crowd attracts some of the most bigoted, knee jerk reactionary, *****head folks I have ever seen.
Drop in on CornerCarvers some time...

MichiganMat 10-26-2005 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
Ok Matt, since you asked...

I don't think that homosexuals choose to have an attraction to the same sex. They DO, however, choose to ACT on that attraction. Same way with straight people, I CHOOSE to marry my wife and have children, etc. It's a choice. There are plenty of people who are celibate despite having an attraction to the opposite sex. Saying that a homosexual can't help himself/herself takes away the higher brain function that (hopefully) separates humans from animals.

Well thats an interesting justification, and I can see where you're coming from, but it sounds like you're basing this on your personal belief.

So lets back to choice, because thats what this is all about right? You choose to believe that having gay feelings are wrong. You're not an animal, you've thought it out and its a choice you've made.

So what if, lets speculate, that gays choose to believe that gay feelings are not wrong... where does that leave your argument?

Nathans_Dad 10-26-2005 11:51 AM

Matt, you are misunderstanding my point. In no way, shape or form am I trying to tell gay people that they are wrong and I am right. They have just as much right to live their lives in peace as anyone else and believe whatever they want to believe.

The point is that somehow I get labeled as a bigoted, intolerant, *****head for suggesting that it's ok for someone to choose to not shop at Wal-Mart because that corporation decided to give a million bucks to a homosexual organization or to think that my tax dollars should not go to support a gay organization. See?

VINMAN 10-26-2005 11:57 AM

Vash, i do choose to change the channel, as I do with the majority of programming on tv, as most of it is garbage.
Hey im no prude or goody-goody far from it, I just feel we are exposed to too much lurid and immoral crap in our everday lives. (And before you go off, i'm not saying being gay is immoral), just not my cup of tea. After all, I like nothing better than seein two(attractive) girls going at it, but i dont think it should be mainstreamed for everyone to see. Nor should my money go too support that lifestyle, male or female.
As for homosexuallity in schools, my wife is a teacher so I hear what is being taught in our schools. Most of the stuff makes me a big proponent of home schooling.

vash 10-26-2005 11:59 AM

fair enough vinman! peace? :D

legion 10-26-2005 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Was this network founded by Catholic priests? Seems like a good recruiting tool.
And no one will jump on this and call it bigoted and knee-jerk?

VINMAN 10-26-2005 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by vash
fair enough vinman! peace? :D
You got it Vash! Handshake!
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dhoward 10-26-2005 12:06 PM

Will there be a lot of lesbian shows?
I'm ok with that....

widebody911 10-26-2005 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by VINMAN
[B]You got it Vash! Handshake!
Quick, look! Two guys holding hands! Ewwwww~!

dd74 10-26-2005 12:08 PM

I truly believe the intolerant ones in this thread are the ones lashing out against McLaughlin and Nathan's Dad and Joe.

Did I see anywhere in this thread where these two men said they would physically harm gays because of this MTV-like program/channel? No. They stated, simply, that they would not watch the channel and boycott the products of those who sponsor the channel. That is tolerance, but as well exercising personal rights - just like what homosexuals want with their own lives.

Lashing out like this only galvanizes the anger inside people who are much more vehement against the gay lifestyle than McLaughlin or Nathan's Dad or Joe. Those individuals are powder kegs who kill homosexual men and women. One should be thankful that all these guys will do is not support the media and the sponsors of this channel.

Conversely, what many including those of alternative lifestyles do during the Apartheid era in South Africa. They divested/boycotted any company providing materials - whatever they may be - that might assist the South African government which supported Apartheid. Although circumstances cannot compare between Apartheid and a gay lifestyle channel, the overall action is the same: boycotting. What should be remembered is no one called the boycotters of Apartheid intolerant.

deathpunk dan 10-26-2005 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by legion
And no one will jump on this and call it bigoted and knee-jerk?
no

considering there are people in my family who were in fact molested by Catholic priests, and my family has since left the catholic church. no, not me that was molested. sorry to disappoint you.

dhoward 10-26-2005 12:10 PM

Hey! Me too!

deathpunk dan 10-26-2005 12:11 PM

another idiotic comparison...too funny...comparing homosexuality to apartheid.

Homosexuality is genetic. Homosexual behavior occurs in nature, in animals. It is not normal, but it IS natural.

Apartheid is/was a human construct based on false differences (racial).

Fools

Shaun @ Tru6 10-26-2005 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by legion
And no one will jump on this and call it bigoted and knee-jerk?
big·ot, n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

I guess if I belong to a group that is against proven widespread pedophilia in another group, one that simply moves offenders from one parish to another as a "cure," then sure, what I posted is bigoted.

widebody911 10-26-2005 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by dhoward
Will there be a lot of lesbian shows?
I'm ok with that....

Ug, not if they're like the real lesbians I've seen out here.

Nathans_Dad 10-26-2005 12:13 PM

Huh? Homosexual behavior occurs in nature, in animals? Well so does eating your own poop but we aren't see an "All poop all the time" channel now are we?

Superman 10-26-2005 12:13 PM

I understand how dangerous these gay-recruiting programs can be. This is why I don't dare watch the Hallmark Channel or Oxygen. I don't want to become a woman.

dhoward 10-26-2005 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by widebody911
Ug, not if they're like the real lesbians I've seen out here.
Oh.
I was more thinking of the Cinemax-type lesbians....
Nevermind.

dhoward 10-26-2005 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Superman
I understand how dangerous these gay-recruiting programs can be. This is why I don't dare watch the Hallmark Channel or Oxygen. I don't want to become a woman.
(deparately searching for the Superman in drag image........)
:)

vash 10-26-2005 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
Huh? Homosexual behavior occurs in nature, in animals? Well so does eating your own poop but we aren't see an "All poop all the time" channel now are we?
ahhhhhgg. you just made me gag on my lunch!


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