Does Tom Delay have a coat hanger stuck in his mouth?

jorian · 11-01-2005, 09:39 PM

Every time I see this rube on the boob tube accompanied by his dutiful wife leaving/entering a court house he has this disingenuous *****eating grin on his face. His wife doesn't pull it off quite as well, but Tom's effort is truly excruciating. I'm not saying he should look all weepy but if your going down in flames it's alot to ask that the public is supposed to believe he is enjoying himself.

Mulhollanddose · 10:09 PM

Score 1 for Delay:

During Tuesday morning's hearing, several Republicans testified on behalf of DeLay, saying they think Perkins, a longtime Democrat, should step down. State Rep. Terry Keel, R-Austin, testified that he personally believes Perkins would be fair in this case but that the perception among most of his Republican constituents is that Perkins should not hear the case.

Former Texas Supreme Court Chief Justice John L. Hill testified that this is a "clear cut" example of when a judge should disqualify himself. He said he was troubled particularly by the judge's donations to MoveOn.org and the Democratic National Committee, which he said are directly opposed to DeLay's politics.

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hardflex · 11-02-2005, 03:51 AM

A judge, who would be fair, should step down? We don't want fair, we want Biased? Sounds to me like the Republican equivalent of the "race card".

"Terry Keel, a black man, testified that he personally believes Perkins would be fair in this case but that the perception among most of his black constituents is that Perkins, (a Caucasian) should not hear the case."

Sound familiar, like something you might object to now, Mul?

Those quotes, if you read them, are laughable. What principles Keel has, he thinks the judge would be fair, but his Republican constituents (who don't know the judge) do not ( is there no reasoning with them?). He doesn't have a high opinion of this Republican constituents, does he? Or if donating to the DNC is cause for disqualification, then is donating to the RNC a prerequisite to be qualified.

The article doesn't state whether those that testified received any Republican money or benefits from Delay's money laundering scheme.

Delay is a partisan hack of the worst kind.

Rodeo · 11-02-2005, 04:32 AM

Think about the precedent this sets. If a judge is of a different political party than you, you can get he or she thrown off your case? Absurd. The criminal charges against DeLay have nothing to do with his political affiliations. Either he laundered money or he did not.

Now if we get a Repub judge, the prosecution can have him removed?

lendaddy · 11-02-2005, 04:59 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
Think about the precedent this sets. If a judge is of a different political party than you, you can get he or she thrown off your case? Absurd. The criminal charges against DeLay have nothing to do with his political affiliations. Either he laundered money or he did not.

Now if we get a Repub judge, the prosecution can have him removed?

Would you think it fair to be tried by a judge that had directly contributed to an organization that ran attack ads against you and vowed to bring you down? I'm guessing not. This is not "just a Democrat" judge and you know it. Second, the practice of judges recusing themselves and/or being recused is age old and contrary to your chicken little statements will not upset the system

hardflex · 11-02-2005, 05:09 AM

I'm an independent, so next time I fight a traffic ticket, I want an independent judge to preside. I'll accept a libertarian, if one is available, but NO Republicans or Democrats.

BTW, Judges in Texas are elected, so you won't find many who haven't contributed to the DNC or the RNC.

Judges don't get a vote on the Jury anyway.

lendaddy · 11-02-2005, 05:14 AM

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Originally posted by hardflex
I'm an independent, so next time I fight a traffic ticket, I want an independent judge to preside. I'll accept a libertarian, if one is available, but NO Republicans or Democrats.

BTW, Judges in Texas are elected, so you won't find many who haven't contributed to the DNC or the RNC.

Judges don't get a vote on the Jury anyway.

I'm afraid it's a little deeper than that. He contributed to MoveOn.org, not just a democratic party.

Rodeo · 11-02-2005, 05:33 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
I'm afraid it's a little deeper than that. He contributed to MoveOn.org, not just a democratic party.

So what's your point? He's a Democrat, and contributes to groups that support Demorcrats.

Judges recuse themselves for PERSONAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. Maybe they have a financial stake in the outcome, or they are related by blood or marriage to a party or witness, or they have sat on related aspects of the case, etc. etc.

Its absurd to think that we are all entitled to judges that belong to the same party as we do.

Guys like DeLay have politicized EVERYTHING in this country. Now the judiciary. Its a shame.

hardflex · 11-02-2005, 05:34 AM

Woooh Moveon.org (orchestra hit!) the Right's favorite whipping boy!

You want to limit a citizen's political freedom, now? Not all citizens march in lockstip behind the Bush Administration, you know, and try to pull the Right back towards the Middleby contributing to someone like Moveon.

I'm going to have to take a few of these today

lendaddy · 11-02-2005, 05:58 AM

Fine, then why did the same judge recuse himself in the case Earl brought against Hutchinson earlier?

If you think MoveOn is pulling people toward the middle then yes you need Fukitol.

I know it pains you deeply that Delay will win this case, but what's right is right.

BlueSkyJaunte · 11-02-2005, 06:30 AM

So it turns out, fellow MacHeads, that behind the scenes, our very own Steve Jobs has been licensing copies of his Reality Distortion Field (c)(r) to both the Dems and the Repubs....

hardflex · 11-02-2005, 07:46 AM

So, if Delay wins, Justice is served, if he loses, it's a Democratic plot. Already starting to spin it, you just can't help it. Stonewall all the way.

I know one of the dogs in this fight, I think he'll cover all the bases. We will see

lendaddy · 11-02-2005, 07:54 AM

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Originally posted by hardflex
So, if Delay wins, Justice is served, if he loses, it's a Democratic plot. Already starting to spin it, you just can't help it. Stonewall all the way.

I know one of the dogs in this fight, I think he'll cover all the bases. We will see

I didn't say that, but from what I can see this is all BS and I trust it will come out in court. We'll see.

juanbenae · juanbenae's Garage

too bad all political lies did not include a stained dress, the current Republican party powers would need additional closet space.

Mulhollanddose · 11-02-2005, 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Would you think it fair to be tried by a judge that had directly contributed to an organization that ran attack ads against you and vowed to bring you down? I'm guessing not.

How much you wanna betcha Jay Rockefeller doesn't recuse himself from the DNC's recent play to start a show-trial (impeach Bush for Democrat lies of being "misled into war"), despite Rockefeller premeditating this play in 2003.

jorian · 11:39 AM

"Score 1 for Delay:..."

What? Delay should be applauded when he undermines the legal system? Guess you would be happy only if his Mom tried the case.

"Former Texas Supreme Court Chief Justice John L. Hill testified...directly opposed to DeLay's politics."

This would imply that Move On concerns itself exclusively with the political malfeasance of Delay. If this is what Delay thinks, he needs to get over himself. Why is it so hard to admit he might just be a bad guy? Criminal behavior is not mitigated by political affiliation.

And what about that coat hanger?

Mulhollanddose · 11-02-2005, 09:55 AM

Rodeo · 11-02-2005, 11:32 AM

Now that was funny!

Anyone that doesn't already know that DeLay has sold his and his party's soul to the highest bidder is never going to get it.

Mind you, I'm not talking about the current charges. I'm talking about his public record of the last 10 years. Its a disgrace, and the reason Republicans have reached their zenith. We start swing back to the other side now, until the Dems, drunk with power, start doing the same.

I won't be defending them if/when they do.

lendaddy · 11-02-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
Now that was funny!

Anyone that doesn't already know that DeLay has sold his and his party's soul to the highest bidder is never going to get it.

lol

Now I know people say LOL, but that actually made me laugh out loud, people are looking at me

You're like a political UZI, spray and pray. But you do entertain me, so I forgive you.

Mulhollanddose · 11-02-2005, 11:42 AM

the disconnect is staggering