The Great Pelican "Was the Mission Accomplished?" Poll

[Victor]

Once again, no leftist liberal media spinning please.

Oh - and if someone could tell me what the mission actually was that would be greatly appreciated - it's been a while and the objective has escaped my memory.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by Victor
Oh - and if someone could tell me what the mission actually was that would be greatly appreciated - it's been a while and the objective has escaped my memory.

The mission was that unit's mission. They returned from their mission in the middle east..."Mission Accomplished"

Applauding and rewarding our military is not only good for our military, but good for their families and our country.

The criticism of this event only illustrates the profound pettiness of leftism...They want us to lose, which shouldn't come as a secret to anybody...Bush's success is their failure, irrespective of human rights, our safety, or the good of the country.

[arcsine]

I thought the mission was to remove a dictator from power, insure a democratic polital system was in place and hand over the keys to the country back to the Iraqi's.

Got the first item done at least.

[Victor]

Originally posted by arcsine
I thought the mission was to remove a dictator from power, insure a democratic polital system was in place and hand over the keys to the country back to the Iraqi's.

Got the first item done at least.

I sort of agree. Only because Saddam seems pretty in control of the trial process.

I reckon he'll be in a palace flushing pictures of GWB down a gold toilet by this time next year.

http://www.metronews.ca/reuters_international.asp?id=106888

[Rodeo]

Of course it was. The mission was to get some great footage for a campaign commercial, right?


The lighting was perfect.

[Victor]

Perfect lighting or photoshop? Hmmmmm.....

[Rodeo]

One of the great charades of this administration is that the president is just a “regular guy” trying to do the right thing without consulting polls and unconcerned with political ramifications. Nothing could be further from the truth. This is the most political administration in history. Politics is about the only thing they do right!

Anyway, along with the propaganda goes the stagecraft. And these guys are good. Very good.


WASHINGTON -- George W. Bush's "Top Gun" landing on the deck of the carrier Abraham Lincoln will be remembered as one of the most audacious moments of presidential theater in American history. But it was only the latest example of how the Bush administration, going far beyond the foundations in stagecraft set by the Reagan White House, is using the powers of television and technology to promote a presidency like never before.

Officials of past Democratic and Republican administrations marvel at how the White House does not seem to miss an opportunity to showcase Mr. Bush in dramatic and perfectly lighted settings. It is all by design: the White House has stocked its communications operation with people from network television who have expertise in lighting, camera angles and the importance of backdrops.

On Tuesday, at a speech promoting his economic plan in Indianapolis, White House aides went so far as to ask people in the crowd behind Mr. Bush to take off their ties, WISH-TV in Indianapolis reported, so they would look more like the ordinary folk the president said would benefit from his tax cut.

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The most elaborate — and criticized — White House event so far was Mr. Bush's speech aboard the Abraham Lincoln announcing the end of major combat in Iraq. White House officials say that a variety of people, including the president, came up with the idea, and that Mr. Sforza embedded himself on the carrier to make preparations days before Mr. Bush's landing in a flight suit and his early evening speech.

Media strategists noted afterward that Mr. Sforza and his aides had choreographed every aspect of the event, even down to the members of the Lincoln crew arrayed in coordinated shirt colors over Mr. Bush's right shoulder and the "Mission Accomplished" banner placed to perfectly capture the president and the celebratory two words in a single shot. The speech was specifically timed for what image makers call "magic hour light," which cast a golden glow on Mr. Bush.

"If you looked at the TV picture, you saw there was flattering light on his left cheek and slight shadowing on his right," Mr. King said. "It looked great."

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"They seem to approach an event site like it's a TV set," said Chris Carlson, an ABC cameraman who covers the White House. "They dress it up really nicely. It looks like a million bucks."

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"They understand they have to build a set, whether it's an aircraft carrier or the Rose Garden or the South Lawn," Mr. Deaver said. "They understand that putting depth into the picture makes the candidate or president look better."

Or as Mr. Deaver said he learned long ago with Mr. Reagan: "They understand that what's around the head is just as important as the head."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/05/16/nyt.bumiller/

[Victor]

Wow - sort of reminds me of another great military leader. Ever see a Leni Reifenstahl film called "Triumph of the Will"?

[Rodeo]

Well, I don't want to overstate the case, but there definitely are many parallels. Paying "journalists" under the table to promote your policies, planting a reporter with friendly questions, installing your pollster/political aid at your right hand in the oval office, viciously attacking your enemies and their families, even to the point of disclosing the name of a covert CIA agent, lying to investigators and grand juries, promoting torture as an acceptable way to obtain information, and posing for the cameras with a plastic turkey; these things are not the stuff of some well-meaning “regular guys.”

[Joeaksa]

Sad that there are no real leaders in your own country so you have to keep sticking your nose in other countries business. Alas, someday you might have someone that could be of leadership material but then who knows.

By the way, would you prefer that Saddam was still in power? How about Bin Laden? Sure sounds like his cronies are trying to have some fun in Australia the last few days and you are lucky that someone found it out, otherwise your country might have the same terrorist strike as America did a few years ago. Might just wake you up but not sure ...

JoeA

[Victor]

Geez, all that effort/spin doctoring/posing and still an official Pelican approval rating of less than 30% .......and almost 90% in disagreement that the mission was accomplished.

How can one man do so little with so much?

[Victor]

Joe, GWB is the leader of my Nation thanks to support of the snivveling Liberal toadie that is our Prime Minister. So I guess I agree with you there - we have no real leadership in our country either.

As for the recent arrests in Australia, do not be suprised if it turns out they are only guilty of making stale kebabs.

Also, given "the mission" is not over, don't be so sure Saddam's rule of Iraq is over.

[Rodeo]

Originally posted by Joeaksa
Sad that there are no real leaders in your own country ***

JoeA

Tell me about it Joe

But let's look on the bright side. Bush only has three more years in office!

p.s. Pretty brutal to trash one of our allies and friends like that. I think there might be an opening for you in the State Department!

[Mulhollanddose]

[Matt Holcomb]

Originally posted by Joeaksa
How about Bin Laden? Sure sounds like his cronies are trying to have some fun in Australia the last few days and you are lucky that someone found it out, otherwise your country might have the same terrorist strike as America did a few years ago. Might just wake you up but not sure ...

JoeA

Hey, I'm awake to the fact that 17 terror suspects would not have been arrested in our country today if our immoral government had reasoned that aiding and abetting the United States in their illegal and disingenuous invasion of Iraq would only beget more terrorist attacks.

How any intelligent and sensible adult could not see that trying to "democratize" Iraq would be incendiary and destructive is beyond my fcuking comprehension! If you still can't see it, then, I'm sorry, but you're as blind as Saddam's loyalists.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by Matt Holcomb
Hey, I'm awake to the fact that 17 terror suspects would not have been arrested in our country today if our immoral government had reasoned that aiding and abetting the United States in their illegal and disingenuous invasion of Iraq would only beget more terrorist attacks.

Aiding and abetting Islamics.

[Matt Holcomb]

Originally posted by Mulhollanddose


Aiding and abetting Islamics.

Explain your obliqueness.

[stuartj]

I think Deep Thought is trying to align Muslim extremsim with the present trouble in Paris with the use of a pithy illustration.

Ofcourse, the trouble in Paris could attributed to good old fashioned racism, marginalisation and economic divide.

Sort of like it was in New Orleans.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by stuartj
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Sort of like it was in New Orleans.

Are you implying that a great deal of the problems in France are made up by the liberal press to discredit the US President like in New Orleans?

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by stuartj
Ofcourse, the trouble in Paris could attributed to good old fashioned racism, marginalisation and economic divide.

Sort of like it was in New Orleans.

Funny how oppression and liberalism go hand-in-hand.

What is it with liberals affection for Islamofascists?