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President Bush and the current administration have borrowed more money from foreign governments and banks than the previous 42 presidents combined

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Old 11-10-2005, 08:25 AM
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(CNSNews.com) - President Bush and the current administration have borrowed more money from foreign governments and banks than the previous 42 presidents combined, a group of conservative to moderate Democrats said Friday.

Blue Dog Coalition, which describes itself as a group "focused on fiscal responsibility," called the administration's borrowing practices "astounding."
a group of conservative to moderate Democrats

That's right, there is such a thing.

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Old 11-10-2005, 08:56 AM
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I would like to call this presidency a disappointment, but I had so few expectations. Even for hawkish conservatives, Bush's spending habits must be hard to watch.
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a group of conservative to moderate Democrats

That's right, there is such a thing.

You wouldn't know it by the last DNC convention...They are kept in the back of the bus.
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I would like to call this presidency a disappointment, but I had so few expectations. Even for hawkish conservatives, Bush's spending habits must be hard to watch.
I have no idea how you read that. Bush inherited a recession, foreign policy disaster and natural disasters...He was given a lemon and has undeniably made lemonade.

Bush has made a bad situation better than could be expected.
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Even for hawkish conservatives, Bush's spending habits must be hard to watch.
Yes indeed
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I agree. I'm sick about it...the fact that Bush and a Republican majority congress is spending like a bunch of drunken Democrats.
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I too am dissappointed at the exessive spending of the federal government. I don't do defecit spending in my personal life. Why can't I expect the same level of common sense from our country's leadership?

I know most average Americans live their lives in debt, but I would like to have people who are better than average in charge of the nation's checkbook.

Wishfull thinking, huh?
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I agree. I'm sick about it...the fact that Bush and a Republican majority congress is spending like a bunch of drunken Democrats.
The Democrats own the bar...Republicans are just alcoholics.
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Unfortunately most people don't care. Three or four years ago I was at a party, and the subject of conversation turned to deficit spending, and one woman said something to the effect of, "What's the big deal? I borrow on my credit card. Why can't the government do the same thing?" This woman has recently filed for bankruptcy (before the rules change next year). I bet she doesn't get the irony of the situation.
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Old 11-10-2005, 09:47 AM
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Don't U get it....with all those $$$$ floating around in foreign hands...Bush wants to DEVALUE the $$$$....so that when it comes time to cash them in...they won't be worth much....it will take a whole wheel barrel of them to buy a loaf of bread....

So who will come out ahead of this round of inflation...people who own THINGS...RE, ANY THING COLLECTABLE, STOCKS, GOLD ETC.

And all that DEBT...which is in $$$ denominations ....will seem cheap...

What happens to all the POOR folk who don't have a pot to piss in those Blue States...THEY GET POORER....
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Don't U get it....with all those $$$$ floating around in foreign hands...Bush wants to DEVALUE the $$$$....so that when it comes time to cash them in...they won't be worth much....it will take a whole wheel barrel of them to buy a loaf of bread....
I won't say you're wrong, but I will say that's wishful thinking.

Regardless; the idea here from GW is to cause a worldwide recession?
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If that's the case I would think holding foreign stocks should be better then domestic ones. Should we be buying Porsche or VW instead of GM?

But Bush doesn't control the value of the dollar. China has the yuan pegged to the dollar, and they make the call on when to re-value.
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Look at the US Government's debt statistics and our own personal debt statistics and compare them to the rest of the world.

We'll get away with this for awhile - we're a rich country after all. But all those debts will catch up with us, or our children.

You can make out like a bandit if you time it right, just like in 1999. Just don't miss the last stop before the next recession.....
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Yesterday, I was at the gym watching the president call for America to take a leading role in relief for the Pakistani earthquake victims. And America should take a leading role, we are a leader of the world. This is one of the things we should and must do.

But as I was watching, all I could think of was this: We are going to borrow money from the Chinese (and others) to send it to Pakistan. The same for rebuilding the gulf coast. The same for waging war in Iraq. ALL BORROWED MONEY.

I don’t know why more people are not angry as heck over this.
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I don’t know why more people are not angry as heck over this.
Well, I am. Bush has the national Mastercard and he's going for the limit...
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Arrange your finances now, in 3 years we will be in a really deep recession. My plan is to make sure I have no bills at all in 3 years. I had no bills last month but bought a house in NC. I plan on paying it off in 3 years before the bottom falls out. I will be suprised to see a strong economy 3 years from now and amazed if it lasts 4 years.

I dont care what administration you blame it on its going to happen.

BTW- this is just my opinion nothing more, I do not profess to be an expert in this field but go with what I see happening and I do not see a strong economy for much longer.

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