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tcar 11-16-2005 12:04 PM
Can't be unified? BLACK AUDI WAGON!

legion 11-16-2005 12:07 PM
This just in!

There is a massive BAW at the center of the universe!

ckissick 11-16-2005 12:31 PM
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Remind me again, what are the three forces that are currently unified, and which is the one that can't be unified?
Electro-magnetism, the strong nuclear force, and the weak nuclear force are united. Gravity is the odd one out; it is extremely feeble but acts over huge distances.

Gravity is irrelevant to an atom, while the other 3 forces are not. Quantum equations and E-M equations do not work with gravity.

Black holes offer hope to unify, as they have massive gravity, and are extremely small at the same time. Nothing else has those 2 properties.

slakjaw 11-16-2005 03:01 PM
This kind of stuff really intrists me. I wish I could understand it better.

Rick Lee 11-16-2005 03:04 PM
Read Brief History. It's thin and a fast read. Took me three reads to totally get it, but it's very valuable stuff. Read Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot too. It'll give you a great appreciation for how small and insignificant, yet arrogant, we really are.

Rick Lee 11-16-2005 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by ckissick
Electro-magnetism, the strong nuclear force, and the weak nuclear force are united. Gravity is the odd one out; it is extremely feeble but acts over huge distances.

Gravity is irrelevant to an atom, while the other 3 forces are not. Quantum equations and E-M equations do not work with gravity.

Black holes offer hope to unify, as they have massive gravity, and are extremely small at the same time. Nothing else has those 2 properties.
This stuff is explained pretty well in Brief History. My favorite part of that book is his explanation of event horizons and light cones. Amazing stuff.

Dantilla 11-16-2005 05:37 PM
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From what I understand, most high-level physicists don't have much regard for him.
That's because he has written best-sellers, and they can't get a date.

cool_chick 11-16-2005 05:43 PM
Oh man, I would love to see Hawking....

If you get to go ronin, can you post about it?

tcar 11-17-2005 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by Rick Lee
This stuff is explained pretty well in Brief History. My favorite part of that book is his explanation of event horizons and light cones. Amazing stuff.
"Event Horizon"... now there's a freaky movie... some people can't even watch the entire thing.

I think that was the name of the ship.

ckissick 11-17-2005 09:50 AM
Hawking has a new book out, "A Briefer History of Time". It's supposed to be a little more understandable. I'm expecting a copy in the mail any day now, so I'll delve into that one soon. A very good book about all this stuff is "Fabric of the Cosmos" by Brian Green.

Rick Lee 12-02-2005 05:57 AM
So who went to this event? How was it?


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