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Looking to trade services in SoCal

Someone just offered me a 14ft sail boat(was his now it's hers) in trade for some work on her 911. I'd be interested if I could find someone to teach me how to sail.
Anyone interested in trading sailing lessons for some body/paint work on a 911?

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Old 11-15-2005, 02:11 PM
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Why do you need to sail a boat? I thought body shop guys get more "trim" than sailors.
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Why do you need to sail a boat? I thought body shop guys get more "trim" than sailors.
Your thinkin rich body shop guys!
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:07 PM
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Kev, Kev, Kev.

I'd gladly taech you to sail just to see the arm candy you'd show up with.

I'd actually love to get some pointers on paint techniques anyway!

Lets get together.

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Beware Kevin, sailing can be addictive. Once an Aussie friend taught us the basics, Cindy & I enjoyed more hours in our 15' Mutineer class dinghy than in the 911S. That is, until medical problems caught up with us. When you learn to feel the wind, direction and force, through your ears, you'll know that you're beginning to get it. When you learn to read catspaws, become able to be good at guessing wind shifts...wow! It's tapping into the forces of nature, and it's absolutely fantastic. DAMN! I DO miss sailing... Oh, almost forgot to add: The difference between sailing and swimming? In a non ballasted dinghy, it can be as little as 5 seconds.
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Old 11-15-2005, 05:10 PM
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14 footer? Sunfish or Sailfish? Spent everyday at summer camp on the lake in one of those things.

What a blast in even a moderate wind.

Very easy to learn and handle by yourself.

Sounds like you'll get the better end of the deal. Enjoy.
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I've spent the evening looking at boats online. I wanted to see what similar boats go for in general. I'm amazed that these things are not at all expensive.
So it raises another question. Would I be better off getting something like a 25 footer, after all I do intend to get offshore eventually, or should I start off small and work up?
Michael swing by the shop anytime your in the neighborhood and I'll give you paint tips gratis. I'll be shooting something paint or primers almost everyday the next two weeks.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:44 PM
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Damn I wish I was in SC. This would be too good to pass up.

Start small on lakes or protected places to get the hang of things. Learn boat controls, names, how the boat responds to sails, sail trim, steering etc. As you get comfortable move up to a bigger boat. 14ft is a bit small for the newbie to be going out on blue water with. You are going to love it though.
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...So it raises another question. Would I be better off getting something like a 25 footer, after all I do intend to get offshore eventually, or should I start off small and work up?
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Definitely play with the 14 footer for a while before you jump to a larger sailboat, if for no other reason than to test your significant other's interest.

I started out on small sailboats (Tanzer 16, Seaspray 14 catamaran, Hobie cat) before buying a larger boat. My wife didn't really take to sailing, so I knew to stay with something I could handle comfortably on my own... about 22 feet. We can use it for an overnighter, but for the most part I sail it alone so being able to rig it up alone in under 10 minutes was key.

Learn the basics in the 14 footer, then take lessons through a local sailing club.

You yanks are lucky... lots of nice, cheap sailboats on both coasts.
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Too bad you are far away - I'd be happy to do it for you Kevin - sailing is alot of fun - wish I had more time to sail...

Start small - work your way up from there. Steve Colgate does a pretty good video series on learning to sail.
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I believe Patrick B does some sailing. He is here in the OC but I believe he might know quite a bit. I don't think has been to the OT side of the board yet though. Try sending him a PM, he might be in for a trade.
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Kevin, definitely start small. An unballasted centerboard boat is the best way to learn how things work. If you begin with a ballasted boat, the boat itself will be too forgiving when you make errors...errors you could be unaware of but repeat when there is room for none. With the unballasted boat, you learn...Frankly, for pure sailing enjoyment the smaller boats are more fun! Sort of like the difference in seat feel of a early 911 vs. a Lexus Sedan... Ahhh memories here. Like the day a guy brought a ballasted 23 footer to our high mountain lake. His expression was priceless as I literally sailed circles around him in my mutineer....while he thought he was on a fast reach.
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:20 AM
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Hey pwd72s... Mutineer is a Chrysler, isn't it?
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Hey pwd72s... Mutineer is a Chrysler, isn't it?
Yep...their 15' model. Gawd, I'll never forget the first time I popped her up on a plane...they aren't as fast as a pure racing dinghy, but for a family daysailor, they can scoot! Eliptical rudder & centerboard, planing hull, 150 sq. feet of sail area, not counting the 'chute, of course.
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Hey pwd72s... Mutineer is a Chrysler, isn't it?
yes it is...
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When you learn to read catspaws, become able to be good at guessing wind shifts...wow! It's tapping into the forces of nature, and it's absolutely fantastic.
I had a hobbie cat for a few years and I know of what you speak.... except what the he11 is a catspaw? (besides what is at the end of a cat's leg)
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Eliptical rudder & centerboard, planing hull, 150 sq. feet of sail area, not counting the 'chute, of course.
OOOhh I see I've got some learning ahead o me !!
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:34 AM
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Chrysler made great boats. I have a Chrysler 22 with a swing keel. Mine was made in '71... older than I am! Tough as nails and still looks great (well, recent repaint).
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:35 AM
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I had a hobbie cat for a few years...

Mmmmm... Hobie cats. Now that is the 911 of small boats.

Sorry for jumping all over this thread, I'm wrapping my boat up for winter this week and probably won't put it in next year... suffering from some serious sailing withdrawal.

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