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KevinP73 11-21-2005 09:18 AM

G5 Pilot Roll Call
 
Just making sure the incident in Oregon is no one we know.
Check In guys.

singpilot 11-21-2005 09:51 AM

Not me, I know JoeA is still in the Orient.

singpilot 11-21-2005 09:59 AM

It was Nike. Gear wouldn't retract after takeoff. Hmmmmm..........

They are based at Hillsboro, but went over to International to land.

Hope they land OK.

Hope they do not find the gear pins still installed.

Their reg number is N1KE. Plane is always painted exactly like the latest sneaker design.

KevinP73 11-21-2005 10:08 AM

Guess thats better than the gear not comming down. Now it's just a eco wreck with all the dumped fuel.

singpilot 11-21-2005 10:13 AM

No way to dump fuel. But the allowable landing weight is high enough to usually not have to. Even then, there is a G-meter installed, and if you are a good boy (meaning you are either Catholic, or have spent years practising eye-hand co-ordination in the bathroom), even the overweight landing inspection is not required.

KevinP73 11-21-2005 10:21 AM

Just goes to show the accuracy of the press. I heard they were dumping fuel. Maybe it was the toilets!!

Joeaksa 11-21-2005 02:38 PM

JoeA is back in the sandbox. Did Bangkok to Mumbai (Bombay) Sunday and today Dubai to Doha and now Bahrain. Off for 5 days for a little I & I here with the squids and jarheads on the island.

Did we lose a jet? Remember the "popsickle sticks" in the G-Bird in TEB what pronged it in from 50 feet and hope its not that or that they forgot the pins like Michael said. Hard to save face when that happens...

JoeA

singpilot 11-21-2005 02:44 PM

Nothing further on the news, so I am thinking they got it on at PDX.

KevinP73 11-21-2005 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joeaksa
Remember the "popsickle sticks" in the G-Bird in TEB what pronged it in from 50 feet and hope its not that or that they forgot the pins like Michael said. Hard to save face when that happens...
Or as they would say in laymen terms.......????????

singpilot 11-21-2005 03:28 PM

Was a, by now, infamous incident.

Maintenance (the start of a lot of accidents) had finished working on the plane after having it up on jack stands. One of the ways of 'fooling' the ground sensing system in the airplane into believing it is on the ground (even when up on jack stands) is to cover up the squat switches with popsicle sticks. The popsicle sticks didn't get removed, or spotted by the QC guy, or the pilots on their 'preflight'.

On short final, the throttles were closed to idle, and the airplane (believing it was on the ground, because of the popsicle sticks) extended the ground spoilers, planting the airplane onto the ground as designed.

Unfortunately, the ground was 50 feet south. 45 tons of airplane falling from 50 feet. No need to secure the gear down on that landing, it was driven up thru the wing. Brakes were unecceasry on that rollout.

Those two guys now are driving a semi-truck between Chicago and Philly. And are probably overqualified for that job too. The mechanics are now undoubtedly in a supervisorial position somewhere.

Joeaksa 11-22-2005 11:49 AM

From Aviation International News:

Just Do It: Crew of Troubled Nike GV Did

The maiden flight yesterday of Nike’s newest Gulfstream V–a 2002 model acquired by the sneaker giant on November 2–ended uneventfully, but not as originally planned.

Carrying Nike president and CEO William Perez, four other Nike executives, two pilots and a flight attendant, the aircraft took off yesterday morning from Nike’s headquarters in Hillsboro, Ore., on an intended trip to Toronto. However, the right landing gear failed to fully retract or lower, getting stuck about halfway up.

After more than six hours aloft over Oregon to burn off fuel, consult with Gulfstream technicians and perform emergency procedures that eventually got the gear down and locked, the crew completed a textbook landing back at Hillsboro, not stopping until the aircraft was well inside Nike’s hangar.

Speaking to local media about 45 minutes after landing, Perez praised the crew (pilots Dave Newton and Blair Gammon and flight attendant Melody Peters) for their calmness, the professional job they did and for keeping the passengers informed every step of the way.

KevinP73 11-22-2005 12:02 PM

I don't know how true it is but I had heard that CocaCola wouldn't let their top execs fly on the same flight together for fear of lossing them to an air disaster.
Hendrix Motorsports and other Nascar teams are now considering similar proceedures.

singpilot 11-22-2005 04:20 PM

Several of those tragedies.

The In-N-Out crash at John Wayne.


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