Who has believes or has seen ufo's?

TerryBPP · 11-21-2005, 03:43 AM

I just figured it would be an interesting thread for a monday.

RoninLB · 11-21-2005, 04:05 AM

I hung at a non commercial hot springs in Co that overlooked a valley with the hightest sightings of UFOs in the whole US. That place was a trip.

IROC · IROC's Garage

As much as I would love to believe that we are being visited by beings from another planet, the evidence just doesn't support it. I think that the phenomenon is very interesting, though. I just wish there was more than anecdotal evidence. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence..."

Mike

IROC · IROC's Garage

OK...one more thought... while I do fully believe in the sincerity of the people who report sightings, etc., I think that the hard evidence that what they saw constitutes aliens from another planet is lacking.

Mike

slakjaw · 11-21-2005, 04:57 AM

I have never seen one. There are a LOT of people out there that claim to have seen one though.

IMO: If there are aliens, they would never stop here.

livi · 11-21-2005, 05:05 AM

Pretty much what Mike said. No evidence either pro nor con. Shear statistics however would have me believe its highly unlikely no other place in a the whole universe have had the required elements for some form of life.

Just because we can´t see the needle looking at the hay stack, it does not mean it´s not there..

I am curious - all you religious guys out there - how would you implement God if we where to find proof of life on other planets ?
Did he use yet another week per planet ?

Please note, I am not being ironic - just interested !

TerryBPP · 11-21-2005, 05:10 AM

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Originally posted by livi
Pretty much what Mike said. No evidence either pro nor con. Shear statistics however would have me believe its highly unlikely no other place in a the whole universe have had the required elements for some form of life.

Just because we can´t see the needle looking at the hay stack, it does not mean it´s not there..

I am curious - all you religious guys out there - how would you implement God if we where to find proof of life on other planets ?
Did he use yet another week per planet ?

Please note, I am not being ironic - just interested !

Curious as well.

IROC · IROC's Garage

Also, I do believe that life exists elsewhere in the Universe. I'm just not convinced that it's visiting us. The odds that "we are alone" are not very good. There's nothing special about the Earth, man, etc. - I think it is very anthropocentric (?) to think the we are somehow "special" and that this is the only planet that has intelligent life. We're probably one of thousands of worlds with varying levels of civilization.

Mike

Seeeu911 · Seeeu911's Garage

When I lived in LA, late 80's I was driving back from Palm Springs in the middle of the night and I was stoned, err tired, yea tired... I was hauling ass to get back to work for monday am in my white cab with the top down and I saw a small pink flying elephant looking thing out of the corner of my eye, I turned, looked and it was or looked like a deformed small pink elephant with big ears and big wings pacing me. I sped up and it kept pace I looked at it for a minute or two then it gained speed and out accelerated me by 5-6 car lengths and then turned hard left in front of me, across the front of the road and disappeared off into the desert. True story.

TerryBPP · 11-21-2005, 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by Seeeu911
When I lived in LA, late 80's I was driving back from Palm Springs in the middle of the night and I was stoned, err tired, yea tired... I was hauling ass to get back to work for monday am in my white cab with the top down and I saw a small pink flying elephant looking thing out of the corner of my eye, I turned, looked and it was or looked like a deformed small pink elephant with big ears and big wings pacing me. I sped up and it kept pace I looked at it for a minute or two then it gained speed and out accelerated me by 5-6 car lengths and then turned hard left in front of me, across the front of the road and disappeared off into the desert. True story.

I'd come up with a better description than "pink elephant". Makes it sound like you had a schizophrenic episode.

legion · 11-21-2005, 07:09 AM

I saw a RedUFO once...

Nathans_Dad · Nathans_Dad's Garage

I don't think that religion dictates anywhere that God only created life on Earth...it's entirely possible that God has created life on other planets...maybe he wanted a "do-over" after seeing how we screwed things up.

Dantilla · 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by livi
- how would you implement God if we where to find proof of life on other planets ?

There was a christian song a ways back:

..."And if there's life on other planets,
then I'm sure that he must know.

And he's been there once already,
And has died to save their souls..."

The Bible does not claim that this is the only planet with life. To say so would be as silly as the Catholic church insisting the world is flat, which it did for quite some time. To find life somewhere else in the universe would not change anything about Christianity.

TerryBPP · 11-21-2005, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by Dantilla
There was a christian song a ways back:

..."And if there's life on other planets,
then I'm sure that he must know.

And he's been there once already,
And has died to save their souls..."

The Bible does not claim that this is the only planet with life. To say so would be as silly as the Catholic church insisting the world is flat, which it did for quite some time. To find life somewhere else in the universe would not change anything about Christianity.

So was there a Jesus on each planet or did we just get lucky?

ckissick · 11-21-2005, 09:05 AM

There are about a billion galaxies, each with about a billion stars. If the odds of life forming on any one of the star systems is only one in a billion, then there a billion planets with life on them. Makes you think.

As for getting here in a flying saucer, I don't think so. When our local Staford Linear Accelerator Center wants to accelerate an electron to near the speed of light, they have to do it in the middle of the night when the electric grid is not being used much, because it takes so much energy to ecceklerate a tiny little electron. So how do you get a massive space ship going fast enough to travel light years across space?

If you can, no problem for the astronauts, because as they go faster, their clocks slow down from our frame of reference, and the distance to places for them contracts. At .99 the speed of light, 100 light years becomes maybe 4 light years for the space ship. (I think, I'd have to do the math, which is actually simple.)

Saintly · 11-21-2005, 12:02 PM

There used to be an anoying RedUFO that flew around here but like some UFOs it flew millions of miles to get here only to crash.

Moses · 11-21-2005, 12:31 PM

I'm not entirely sure there is life on this planet.

rsNINESOOPER · 11-21-2005, 01:06 PM

One would have to assume that if there is life here than there might be life on at least one of the other trillions and trillions of planets. Yet I would be a little baffled at why a technologically advanced culture would travel all across the galaxy to visit some Podunk group of lifeforms who are killing each other everyday. All because they look different from one-another or have differing views, but it is hard to look away from a good train wreck.

TerryBPP · 11-21-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by rsNINESOOPER
One would have to assume that if there is life here than there might be life on at least one of the other trillions and trillions of planets. Yet I would be a little baffled at why a technologically advanced culture would travel all across the galaxy to visit some Podunk group of lifeforms who are killing each other everyday. All because they look different from one-another or have differing views, but it is hard to look away from a good train wreck.

Not that I believe in abductions, but do we not view all ants to have the same intelligence? If you were to pick up 2 ants out of a pile would they be any different than the others?

legion · 11-21-2005, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by ckissick
There are about a billion galaxies, each with about a billion stars. If the odds of life forming on any one of the star systems is only one in a billion, then there a billion planets with life on them. Makes you think.

Taking this forward, you have a one in one billion chance of finding life on another planet. If you could search one planet a day, it would take 2,739,726 years. I don't think we've been contacted yet.

Anyone ever heard Steven Hawking's thought on contacting alien life?