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Hugh R 12-06-2005 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by SoCal911SC
Some of my best friends are black bears.
I believe thats Bears of Color

SLO-BOB 12-06-2005 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by slakjaw
WOW

You are lucky he didnt pull a pistol out and end it all for you right there.


Pretty safe bet the pheasant lover is also anti-gun. Guy's too busy grabbing little boys to learn a useful skill obviously.

Jeff- I think you showed admirable restraint. The butt of my shotgun would have introduced itself to his teeth. Just hearing the story makes me want to pistol whip the next PETA rep I come across. Gotta love the backup you received from the law on that one.

The one animal rights activist encounter I laugh about everytime I think of it:

I'm in the garage reprimanding my dog for raiding the trash. I've got her by the collar and I'm sticking her head in the trash can which is laying on it's side. Maybe I was a bit agressive in this because when I pulled her forcefully from the trash can and let her go, she kinda cartwheeled backwards. I was a little surprised at this as she weighed about a buck and a quarter. So I'm watching her tumble backwards out of my garage in slo-mo when I look down the driveway to see this woman standing on the otherside of the gate across my driveway. She's staring open mouthed and wide-eyed at first, but the the look quickly goes to outrage. She said something unintelligable and left post haste. I look at the window next to the drive to see my wife laughing hysterically. Naturally I have no idea wtf is going on until my wife tells me that the woman was canvassing for Greenpeace!:rolleyes: My wife, knowing pretty much what I was up to told the woman to go talk to the "animal lover" out back. I'm surprised there wasn't a rally on my front lawn the next day.

Maybe these bear lovers should go commune with nature in Glacier Nat'l Park this spring. There's lots of bears that would probably love a hug 'bout then.:)

Jims5543 12-06-2005 07:51 PM

Much like the alligators of Florida. Anyone that tells you they are nearing extinction is full of it.

As a land surveyor that has had cerws in the everglades, I can tell you there are too many of them, overpopulation is a good description. Yet everyone cries when they are hunted. They are starving to death due to overpopulation, but that is OK as long as a bullet does not pierce their skull everyone is happy.

Morons.

Wrecked944 12-08-2005 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by NICKG
it is great, I have lived in Sussex county for 30 years and never an environmentalist seen
That's only because you never met me. I grew up in Vernon and I think this bear hunt is idiotic. I am endlessly amazed by the people who want to live near nature and then want to kill it when they realize what nature is really like. They want some sort of sanitized Disneyland version of nature and are shocked shocked shocked when they move to the woods and find out that the woods are dangerous.

I grew up across the street from a large expanse of protected forest. And lots of nasty furry things came and went through my front yard. It was just the price you payed for living there. If you didn't like it, you moved back to the burbs where you probably belonged in the first place. We never left garbage out over night. We made sure we brought all of our food indoors after barbecues. We never went out at night without a flashlight and made sure to make a lot of noise to ward off the critters. Common sense. The woods are filled with scary things. Get over it.

I suspect most of the people begging for a bear hunt (excluding NICKG) are just suburban escapists and New Yorkers who got more than they bargained for when they tried to "get away from it all". Once they get a taste of life "away from it all" then they suddenly decide they want to bring "it all" with them. Don't be surprised if those same people start whining to have a shopping mall with a starbucks and acres of parking, four lane highways to get to their jobs in the City, 50 screen megaplexes, etc etc etc. Vernon is already being over run with those morons and their endless housing developments and it's why I can never live there again. I'll take the real wilderness over the Disney version any day of the week.:mad:

onewhippedpuppy 12-08-2005 09:47 AM

The only problem is, normally these hunts are to make right the stupidity of environmentalists in the first place. Somebody decides that the population of a given animal is declining, so they lobby to have either hunting suspended of the given animal, or more of them introduced into the wild. Suddenly there's bears/ deer/ mountain lions/ etc everywhere, and when the environmentalist hits a deer with their Prius or has their dog killed, they go back the other way. The world would be better if we allowed nature to just take it's course, intervening only when essential.

I agree with most of what you said though Janus, it's a damn shame when wilderness is turned into the burbs so rich people can drive their SUVs and feel rugged. People that want the city life should stay in the city, instead of bringing the city to the wild.

Eric 951 12-08-2005 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by JanusCole

I'll take the real wilderness over the Disney version any day of the week.:mad:

Me too , the Disney folks were pissed when I pulled out my .270 at the "Country Bear Jamboree"

tcar 12-08-2005 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by Jeff Higgins
Believe me, if he had so much as twitched his brains would have been fertilizing the field behind him. Safety was off, finger on trigger, muzzle six inches from nose. That, and half a dozen other hunters would have nailed his lifeless body before it could hit the ground. His choice to involve my young son could have been the biggest mistake he made that day.
Probably the biggest mistake you ever made, too.

Wrecked944 12-08-2005 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by gaijindabe
How many people are killed every year in auto -vs- deer accidents? I have hit three so far and I spend most of my time in the city..
That is actually pretty typical. It is the people coming to the country from the cities who usually end up hitting deer and the zillions of other animals on the roads because they don't friggin' know how to drive (no offense intended - it is just a personal observation about tourists). The locals generally learned to drive on poorly lit pot-holed roads with random deer crossings and rarely have any problems. I learned to drive in Vernon and never once came close to hitting a deer. And I can't even begin to count the number of times I've seen them in the headlights. I'm sure the people clamoring for this bear hunt are gonna want to thin the deer population next because they can't steer their SUV's out of the way of a stationary target without spilling their lattes. Then they'll have the roads widened to 20 lanes and straightened and they'll want to flatten the mountains to eliminate the nasty bumps, hills, and blind curves. God forbid little 17 year old Johnny Suburbanite should improve the breed by taking himself out on a dark and scary country road.

Can you tell I am a bit annoyed at the people who ruined my home town?:mad:

onewhippedpuppy 12-08-2005 04:39 PM

If you lived in central KS you wouldn't say that. There's so damn many deer out there, it's only a matter of time. I don't care how good you are, or what you drive, when they jump from the trees/ weeds/ deep ditch where your headlights don't shine, right into the middle of the road, you're pretty well screwed.

Otherwise, your being pissed off is pretty well justified.

Nathans_Dad 12-08-2005 05:39 PM

If those had been WHITE bears, Bush would have saved em in a heartbeat...

Wrecked944 12-08-2005 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by onewhippedpuppy
Otherwise, your being pissed off is pretty well justified.
Thanks, Matt, for talking down a bit from the ledge. Sorry (especially gaijindabe) if I stepped off. This issue hits a very sore point for me and it makes me lose my temper quickly.

Jeff Higgins 12-08-2005 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by tcar
Probably the biggest mistake you ever made, too.
Naw; I've made bigger ones. Probably several just today. I've gotten over them though.


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