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fintstone 12-08-2005 09:27 PM

Why do liberals seek to limit free speech?
 
It is hard to imagine a political group so intent to limit free speech. This is particulary prevalent on college campuses which were once the bastions of free speech and exploration of alternative viewpoints. Are they afraid that is a conservative viewpoint is allowed to be expressed...it will just make more sense than thier liberal hate-filled agenda?

Heckling causes Coulter to cut UConn speech short

By SHELLEY K. WONG
Associated Press Writer

December 7, 2005, 10:28 PM EST

STORRS, Conn. -- Conservative columnist Ann Coulter gave up trying to finish a speech at the University of Connecticut on Wednesday night when boos and jeers from the audience became overwhelming.

Coulter cut off the talk after 15 minutes and instead held a half-hour question-and-answer session.

"I love to engage in repartee with people who are stupider than I am," Coulter told the 2,600 people at Jorgensen Auditorium.

Coulter's appearance prompted protests from several groups, including Students Against Hate and the Puerto Rican/Latin American Cultural Center. They criticized her for spreading a message of hate and intolerance.

Nearly 100 students gathered inside the Student Union for a rally against Coulter. About a half-dozen people held protest signs outside the auditorium.

After a book signing following her appearance, Coulter called the audience's reaction "typical."

Coulter, originally from New Canaan, Conn., has a history of bashing Democrats in best-selling books, frequent television appearances and speeches. Harding University in Arkansas dropped her from its lecture series in September, citing her abrasive image.

Last April, the president of the University of St. Thomas in Minnesota denounced a speech on the campus by Coulter, calling it hateful. In October 2004, University of Arizona police arrested two men who ran on stage and threw custard pies at Coulter; one of the pies glanced off her shoulder.

In her speech at UConn, Coulter called Bill Clinton an "executive buffoon" who won the presidency only because Ross Perot took 19 percent of the vote. She called California Sen. Barbara Boxer a good candidate for the Democrats because "she is a woman and she's learning disabled."

During the question-and-answer session, someone asked Coulter if she really was against a woman's right to vote.

"Not having women vote is a joke," she said, reversing comments she has previously made.

Eric Knudsen, a 19-year-old sophomore journalism and social welfare major at UConn, didn't attend the speech.

"We encourage diverse opinion at UConn, but this is blatant hate speech," said Knudsen, head of Students Against Hate.

Kareem Mohni, a 20-year-old junior and a member of a campus Republicans group, said he was disgusted with the Jorgensen crowd.

"It really appalled me that we're not able to come together as a group and listen to a different view in a respectful environment," he said.

jorian 12-08-2005 09:48 PM

"....liberal hate-filled agenda."

What is this agenda?

tabs 12-08-2005 09:49 PM

I am forming a group called...I hate, hate and anybody who disagrees with me.

rrpjr 12-08-2005 09:50 PM

David Horowitz, who is decidedly unhateful, gets this reaction too. This stooped, affable, scratchy-voiced, bespectaled 65-year-old was recently assaulted on the stage of Butler College by a group of students who never even allowed him to speak. In fact, they carried placards which said "You have no right to speak." There's free speech for you. These protests have nothing to do with the "hate speech" of the speaker, everything to do with the hateful intolerance -- fear, actually -- of the radical. But Horowitz is in fact a more formidable enemy to the Left than Coulter, as he is promoting around the country an "Academic Bill of Rights," which guarantees equal shares of student activity funds to competing political groups. What could be fairer? Apparently the Left isn't interested in fairness, only in their continued stranglehold on campus speech. But Horowitz's campaign is showing results, slowly. He has defended several students given failing grades for opposing teacher's Leftist dictates, gotten a couple of Deans fired for outrageous abuses of power, and moved some state legislatures to "liberalize" (truly liberalize, that is) campus speech codes. Now there is a man to fear!

fintstone 12-08-2005 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by jorian
"....liberal hate-filled agenda."

What is this agenda?

I think that any group that tends to assault or otherwise physically prevent another's free speech in a public forum....certainly has a "hate-filled agenda."

tabs 12-08-2005 09:59 PM

Lets just face it I hate Liberals....and why ...cause they are fking morons...

jorian 12-08-2005 10:04 PM

Sounds like the students were exercizing their right to free speech.

'Coulter called the audience's reaction "typical." ' - how can she be surprised? sounds like she enjoys baiting people. If you keep getting the same reaction to the same vitriol does that mean everyone else is wrong? Yes, according to Princess Ann. Someone needs to tame this shrew.

jorian 12-08-2005 10:10 PM

"I love to engage in repartee with people who are stupider than I am," Coulter told the 2,600 people at Jorgensen Auditorium.

- I guess this why she likes to hang with Reps.

fintstone 12-08-2005 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jorian
Sounds like the students were exercizing their right to free speech.

'Coulter called the audience's reaction "typical." ' - how can she be surprised? sounds like she enjoys baiting people. If you keep getting the same reaction to the same vitriol does that mean everyone else is wrong? Yes, according to Princess Ann. Someone needs to tame this shrew.

Since when is preventing another's free speech...free speech? Only in liberal bizarro world.

Of course it is typical. She is assaulted or harassed almost every time she speaks. Obviously, the liberals are afraid of true freedom of speech. They seek to prevent the people who come to hear what Ann has to say from doing so.

fintstone 12-08-2005 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jorian
"I love to engage in repartee with people who are stupider than I am," Coulter told the 2,600 people at Jorgensen Auditorium.

- I guess this why she likes to hang with Reps.

Sounds like you are working on joining that group. Obviously, a little reading comprehension...and not taking the words out-of-context...would make even a person educated in government schools realize that the repartee was with the liberals who were attempting to prevent her free speech..

tabs 12-08-2005 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jorian


- I guess this why she likes to hang with Reps.

What fking conceit you have....personally I think Liberals are like fking sheep....not an orginal thinker among them...they might as well all be standing at the airport jumping up and down chanting in unison...GW is Bad....

jorian 12-08-2005 10:21 PM

"...would make even a person educated in government schools realize (assume) that the repartee was with the liberals who were attempting to prevent her free speech..."

You know what happens when you assume... Besides what fun is the proper context anyway?

jorian 12-08-2005 10:35 PM

"What fking conceit you have....personally I think Liberals are like fking sheep...."

How do you know what it is like to fk sheep?

fintstone 12-08-2005 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jorian
"...would make even a person educated in government schools realize (assume) that the repartee was with the liberals who were attempting to prevent her free speech..."

You know what happens when you assume... Besides what fun is the proper context anyway?

I assumed your remark was "tongue in cheek"...........as mine was.

I agree with Tabs.....most are sheep.

tabs 12-08-2005 10:45 PM

Because like sheep Liberals have big Aholes....

RoninLB 12-08-2005 11:46 PM

This guy surely believes in free speech.

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Joeaksa 12-09-2005 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jorian
Sounds like the students were exercizing their right to free speech.

'Coulter called the audience's reaction "typical." ' - how can she be surprised? sounds like she enjoys baiting people. If you keep getting the same reaction to the same vitriol does that mean everyone else is wrong? Yes, according to Princess Ann. Someone needs to tame this shrew.

Excuse me? Free speech is being allowed to voice your feelings and opinions. What happened here is that the students would not allow a person to speak at all, which is exactly the same thing that Burma, China and N. Korea are doing with some of their critics.

Please tell me the difference other than in our case it was a group of students and in the other case it is the govt? I cannot see any difference and all the liberals are up in arms against these three nations for not allowing free speech, while they attempt to prevent anyone from a speech that shows a viewpoint that they do not like.

I may not have liked Bill Clinton but I let him speak. He has a right to say his side of anything. In this case Ann Coulter was not allowed the same priviledge, and that is just not correct.

Joe A

cool_chick 12-09-2005 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joeaksa
Excuse me? Free speech is being allowed to voice your feelings and opinions. What happened here is that the students would not allow a person to speak at all, which is exactly the same thing that Burma, China and N. Korea are doing with some of their critics.

Please tell me the difference other than in our case it was a group of students and in the other case it is the govt? I cannot see any difference and all the liberals are up in arms against these three nations for not allowing free speech, while they attempt to prevent anyone from a speech that shows a viewpoint that they do not like.

I may not have liked Bill Clinton but I let him speak. He has a right to say his side of anything. In this case Ann Coulter was not allowed the same priviledge, and that is just not correct.

Joe A

Coulter was not prevented from doing anything. Free speech was in fact alive and well.

She wants to speak in an inflammatory way, she will pay the consequences for her actions.

Free speech is a beautiful thing......

Like it or not, Joe, the hecklers are ALSO demonstrating free speech.

That's the bummer of free speech to some people...they want people like Coulter, the KKK, etc., to be able to speak freely, but they don't want to deal with the consequences of those actions...

Negativity breeds same. Too bad, so sad, but this is not "silencing" nor "stifling"....what you're seeing here is a consequence of one's actions.....

I know, I know, you don't want some people to have "consequences" for their actions, in this situation, consequences for Coulter's hate-speak...but sorry, that's just how life is.

cool_chick 12-09-2005 04:01 AM

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Originally posted by SoCal911SC
It does seem that, objective, the left disrupts/tries to stiffle speeches given by the right more than vice versa.

Arnold's speeches get disrupted by the left all the time, I don't recall a Gray Davis speech ever getting disrupted by the right, for example.

Anyone disagree? This should be subject to an objective, non-political answer. The disruptions are objectively either equal from both sides in occurence, or skewed one way or another.

Absolutely not.... free speech was not stifled one bit.

It was heard loud and clear!

Man, you guys sure hate dealing with the consequences for one's actions, don't you?

rcecale 12-09-2005 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cool_chick
Coulter was not prevented from doing anything. Free speech was in fact alive and well.

She wants to speak in an inflammatory way, she will pay the consequences for her actions.

Free speech is a beautiful thing......

Like it or not, Joe, the hecklers are ALSO demonstrating free speech.

That's the bummer of free speech to some people...they want people like Coulter, the KKK, etc., to be able to speak freely, but they don't want to deal with the consequences of those actions...

Negativity breeds same. Too bad, so sad, but this is not "silencing" nor "stifling"....what you're seeing here is a consequence of one's actions.....

I know, I know, you don't want some people to have "consequences" for their actions, in this situation, consequences for Coulter's hate-speak...but sorry, that's just how life is.

Oh, SHADDAP!!!!!!!

Note: I'm not stifling your freedom of speech, I'm just exercising my own! :P ;)

Randy


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