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campbellcj 12-17-2005 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic
on a seni related note I'm thinking of getting a .22 pistol for the range (maybe sig mosquito) because I'm shocked how cheap ammo is...a buck per box of 50. egad!
I have a Ruger Mark II that is awesome...it is a tackdriver and the ammo is CHEAP.

Have read very mixed reviews of the Mosquito...

What range do you usually go to?

campbellcj 12-17-2005 02:46 PM

Isn't even a .22LR kinda LOUD to be firing in the garage?

My neighbors would freak...I even cringe when I fire .177 pellet airguns around here.

campbellcj 12-17-2005 02:48 PM

This is the MKII I have. (Not my pic though.)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1134863275.gif

vash 12-17-2005 03:19 PM

dude, you live in berkeley! dont get caught shooting vermin. i used a .22 to claim plenty of jackrabbits, so i think you just winged the bastard. i think you should just lay out plenty of rattraps. snicker bars are my bait of choice.

get a cat?

jyl 12-17-2005 03:53 PM

Maybe I should buy an CO2 pistol.

We're going to put out a bunch of traps. Got to get this under control. The last rat (the one who crawled away) made a big hole in the wall - like, 6" across - presumably to fit the sticky trap that was attached to him.

campbellcj 12-17-2005 05:25 PM

Anybody tried these?

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_i...42/AMM-066.jpg

"Aguila .22 Super Colibri is super-quiet ammo that does not contain gun powder but fires from the force of the primer only. Powerful and silent, great for use in urban areas. This is a 20-grain bullet in a brass case. Will break glass and penetrate hard tin cans. Velocity is 500 fps (11 foot-pounds) at the muzzle and can be lethal."

jyl 12-17-2005 06:14 PM

Looks useful. I use CB caps for the same purpose.

Jeff Higgins 12-17-2005 06:39 PM

CCI makes CB caps in full length .22 Long Rifle shells. They are far more accurate than the short CB caps from other makers. They put the bullet closer to the throat and the full length case aligns them better in the chamber. In a full length rifle barrel, or even a carbine, they make less noise than a high powered .177 air rifle. They kind of crack a bit from a revolver or pistol. They dump rats pretty darn good, but be careful. A lot of guys think less power is better for indoor shooting safety, but these things can and will bounce off of hard surfaces, and they hurt like hell, believe me. Wear safety glasses; "it's all good fun until some one loses an eye".

real550A 12-17-2005 08:07 PM

I have had great success with .22 lr shotshells.
When fired from my Ruger MkII, I drop red squrrels from 40 feet up in the trees. It sometimes takes two shots, but that's more the shooter than the ammo.

Joe Bob 12-18-2005 08:08 AM

Check local ordinances.....in some cities even the use of air powered guns are illegal.....

Not that stops anyone....just a point if a neighbor gets miffed and drops a dime on ya to the local PD.

Living in a semi rural area we get a lot of local moochers coming in to steal cat/dog food. My .177 pump persuades them it's not a gud idea....

jyl 12-18-2005 12:16 PM

Well, darn it, my paintball gun isn't going to cut it. Where's my right to defend myself and my family (and our earthquake supplies) against home invasion by another species?

snowman 12-18-2005 12:24 PM

At a distance of 3 feet a 22LR BLANK should take out a rat. At that range it should make a dime size hole half way thru the varmit.


My old muzzle loading 4GA uses 1/4 POUND of 45 cal round balls. Backed up with 1/4 POUND of powder. Now thats real stopping power. All the smoke is back up. Fire dept will respond quickly when neighbors see all the smoke.

jyl 12-18-2005 01:41 PM

Don't know about the blank, but the shotshell (snake shot) didn't do the trick. Oh, he would have died, but he wasn't quickly and humanely killed.

I will admit that after another afternoon (today) of cleaning up rat turds, plugging holes in the wall, and throwing out ruined stuff, I'm rapidly getting less concerned about a humane kill.

Jeff Higgins 12-18-2005 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snowman
At a distance of 3 feet a 22LR BLANK should take out a rat. At that range it should make a dime size hole half way thru the varmit.


My old muzzle loading 4GA uses 1/4 POUND of 45 cal round balls. Backed up with 1/4 POUND of powder. Now thats real stopping power. All the smoke is back up. Fire dept will respond quickly when neighbors see all the smoke.

Interesting. Who made this gun? What more can you tell us about it? While the shot charge is correct for a four bore gun, the powder charge is unusually high, like about four times as high as any I have seen.

snowman 12-18-2005 05:50 PM

Home made gun. That was actually the proof charge I used, remember its black powder as well so its hard to really overcharge a chrome molly steel barrel. Its also easier to remember and more impressive. I am still working on the 2nd barrel, just in case the first one leaves something. Notice I didn't say standing, just something.

Making muzzle loaders was once one of my hobbies.

An old inactive member of the NMLRA.

PS Irish still rule.

ZLP 12-18-2005 06:05 PM

Did someone say at home fun with a .22? Here is mine...http://members.cox.net/onequicksupra/zachruger.JPG

ZLP 12-18-2005 06:08 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1134961712.jpg

ZLP 12-18-2005 06:11 PM

for quiet backyard use to kill varmits I use these....http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1134961837.jpg

Jeff Higgins 12-19-2005 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by snowman
Home made gun. That was actually the proof charge I used, remember its black powder as well so its hard to really overcharge a chrome molly steel barrel. Its also easier to remember and more impressive. I am still working on the 2nd barrel, just in case the first one leaves something. Notice I didn't say standing, just something.

Making muzzle loaders was once one of my hobbies.

An old inactive member of the NMLRA.

PS Irish still rule.

Neat stuff. I've been a black powder shooter for as long as I can remember, both muzzle loaders and breech loaders. I've been fairly active in the long range match game up here in the Pacific Northwest for years, shooting a variety of Ballard and Sharps target rifles. Most of my hunting is done with muzzle loaders, including bird hunting, or with breech loading single shots. "Smokeless powder is a passing fad", to quote Mr. Garbe.

Rick Lee 12-19-2005 05:14 AM

You guys ever build a potato gun? Gawd, are they fun. I used to have a roommate who was a patent examiner and very good at building things. A few feet of PVC pipe, some extensions, a gas grill ignitor switch, some screws and a can of Aqua Net. Oh, that was the best! We used come home from the bars and grab a sack potatos and have at it in the back yard. Probably too big for varmints though.


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