I flash mine on and off to attract the attention of gang members.

Hahahahahahahaha!

Don't do it dood, they'll kill you!!!! :D :D :D

Also, if you turn on just your parking lights you can turn on your fog lights...just to piss off those that find fog lights annoying :)

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That raises a very good point. I see how this could affect your night vision.

We should differentiate between daytime and nighttime use of fog lights. I've been talking about both night and day use - maybe I should have them off at night.

Obviously opinions vary on this, but I find it pretty humorous to see all the cars (lots of BMW's in my observation) driving around 100% of the time with foglights on.

Foglights are for fog (or sometimes helpful in VERY dark conditions)...I have personally not found any benefit to having them on in normal city/suburb driving conditions.

I suspect that you have not lived in or spent a lot of time in Europe? I have lived there for almost 15 years, in both Denmark and Germany. If you have foglights on your car and they are not aimed correctly and are shining either down on the pavement or up in someone's eyes, a police car will stop you and if you are lucky you get a warning to go and get them aimed or you get a ticket on the spot.

Germany and Denmark are harsh on condition of people's cars. Almost everything installed on a car must be approved and in the paperwork (brief) or its illegal. You cannot just go down and buy a light and bolt it on. Spoiler? No way, its got to be from the factory or approved maker and on the paperwork. Much more regulated there, even down to the type and location of almost anything that is mounted on every car.

As well the drivers there are much better trained. It usually takes over a year to get your license and around $2000 for the training. If you do something stupid while driving and another driver sees it happen, your chances of a ticket are good. The other driver can and in many cases does go to their local police office and files a complaint against your license plate number. You then receive a letter from the Police telling you to prove that you did not do what is alleged or you will then get a ticket. Very different society and arrangements there.

Its good that you do not make the laws then. Fog lights are for fog and periods of low visability and running with them on when not needed is the reason why there are laws against it. Not trying to get down on you but I have seen far too many cars with the fog lights on when its clear and they were shining in everyone's eyes or straight down on the ground because the driver ran them into the curb. Most American drivers are not as ridgid as European drivers when it comes to their cars and equipment.

Joe A

Hold on a minute guys.

I run all four of my lights almost all the time. I do it because I want the idiot on the side street or driveway who's about to pull out in front of my Little Porsche to see me. My headlights and fogs are darn near impossible to miss, even by those who might not otherwise be paying attention.

Don't believe me? I lived in South Florida back in the 90's and had a conversation with a police officer once about car accidents. He told me that the most common accident down there was the type where a car pulled out of cross street or driveway out into oncoming traffic because the driver "didn't see" the oncoming traffic.

As far as I'm concerned, I want any driver on a side street or at an intersection to know that I'm coming without a doubt. I do not need some yahoo who's not paying attention to pull out in front of me and wreck my beautiful little car.

Sorry. My lights are staying on (but they are adjusted properly).

By the way, my Chevy Tahoe's running lights are wired (by the factory) to be on any time the car's engine is running unless I specifically disable that feature each and every time I get into the car. Chevy does this so that your car will be more visible to those in front of you. They do it for safety's sake. I believe that Canada requires this, by the way.

LIGHTS ALWAYS ON.....so that idiot on the Harley doesn't pull out in front of me..........

I've decided to turn my fog lights off. I've got dtr lamps for improved visibility in the daytime. I've got headlights for visibility at night.

For me the issue is improved visibility. If having lights on in the day improves that, then that's +1 for fog lights. If they are more of a distraction to other drivers, that's -1.5 (or worse). My foglights are integral to my valance and are not subject to damage from parking stops or the like, so they are in good adjustment and will stay that way. They do not shine in people's eyes, and they do not point to the ground. They are not ultra bright, nor are they weird colors.

My fog lights are not a distraction due to improper adjustment. I can't know if they are a distraction for other reasons, so I must assume it is to some. Still kind of a wash. Regardless, I have my visibility bases covered whether they're on or off.

The clincher is the link which points out that fog lights can actually diminish my own night time visibility by highlighting the near foreground.

If you get annoyed by fog lights that are properly adjusted night or day you need to Get A Life! There is no harm having your lights (fog or not) on if they are adjusted correctly.

If you are getting distracted by lights during the day then you must be as stupid as a fish after a shinny lure.

I say we ban the sun it distracts me, it's always shinning in my eyes!

If you keep this up, I'm going to nominate you for troll of the year :)

We could talk about left-foot brakers that use the brake pedal for a dead pedal... AND that have a third brake light...... at NIGHT!

this is why you need fog lights

middle of the the day, narrow road no visibility, summer even

if you don't know when to use them, get off the road.
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Of course you'd use your fog lights when it's foggy. Living in SoCal I rarely come across those conditions. How about if I called them "smog lights"? Can I use them then?

only if they are orange when you look across the valley. not safe for children, seniors or people with asthma

I think a big problem in the US is no one bothers to check the aim of their headlights and fogs. Which reminds me I need to check the aim of my headlights. Also need to get some new bulbs.

My daily driver has fogs/driving lights. The switch is marked with a lamp, with angled down lines and a vertical squiggly lines through it. The 'fogs' do not come on unless the low beams are on. I had modified the relay so that the fogs would come on regardless of the headlights, but one of the wires overheated and melted on the post, insulating the contact on the relay. I just threw the relay back in and it's back to working the way it did before.

the worse ...are the idiots that cant bother to get down to the parts store to pick up a new bulb when they die....how stupid/blind do you have to be to not figure out you have only one headlight...talk about an accident waiting to happen.

And how do you know they are not going to the parts store or just went out?

For illumination purposes only...

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