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Dixie 01-08-2006 06:39 AM

I never got Neil Young either, but at least he is a talented artist.

He's better than much of today's no-talent, digitally enhanced, performers who "look good".

oldE 01-08-2006 08:14 AM

Neil Young is a poet with some great guitar licks, who is brave enough to get up on stage and give us what he's got.
Needle and The Damage Done, Old Man & Tell Me Why are tunes I've been playing (poorly) for over 30 years. It really surprised me last year, at a going-away party for a friend of my son, another of his friends asked if I could play "Comes A Time". I was kind of surprised she even knew who Neil was, let alone one of his old titles.
The guy has got some legs.
Long may he run.
Les

Moses 01-08-2006 08:49 AM

They played "Comes a Time" at my best friends funeral. He was 23 when he died and a huge Neil Young fan.

Neil Young is brilliant.

nostatic 01-08-2006 09:25 AM

According to "traditional metrics", Dylan can't sing, Young can't sing, Cobain couldn't sing, Waits can't sing, etc...

I'd rather listen to someone with something to say sing it from the heart than hear some schlock performed by someone with perfect pitch.

Music (and art more generally) isn't necessarily about being "pretty." It is about challenging one's soul.

Well, except for Zamfir...he rocks!

aways 01-08-2006 09:52 AM

I like Neil Young. I think his voice perfectly complements his lyrics. For many years he was my favorite. I also like to listen on occassion to performers with great voices and so-so lyrics. There's room for both. As far as "art" is concened, I'll take a beautiful painting from the baroque period (for example) anyday, over some modern-day poser who throws a used tampon in a jar of vomit, and calls it "art".

nostatic 01-08-2006 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by aways
over some modern-day poser who throws a used tampon in a jar of vomit, and calls it "art".
It hurts me that you dismiss my work so flippantly. I shall go cry now...

speeder 01-08-2006 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by nostatic
According to "traditional metrics", Dylan can't sing, Young can't sing, Cobain couldn't sing, Waits can't sing, etc...

I'd rather listen to someone with something to say sing it from the heart than hear some schlock performed by someone with perfect pitch.

Music (and art more generally) isn't necessarily about being "pretty." It is about challenging one's soul.

Well, except for Zamfir...he rocks!

Well put! Not sure who Zamfir is, but the rest anyways. :)

I don't listen to Young much, but he is a true, great artist. In all forms of popular music, major points are allowed for style and passion over technical prowess.

The others mentioned are all great as well, I am more of a John Prine fan myself. Also Harry Nilsson.

nostatic 01-08-2006 10:01 AM

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http://www.nndb.com/people/141/000025066/

RANDY P 01-08-2006 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by Jared Fenton
yes, many times in fact. They did an album together. Although I think Pearl Jam sucks ass.
Pearl Jam does in fact suck - badly. However their (sort of) predecessors Mother Love Bone - now that's some bad $hit!

Neil Young? Dunno except I've never made it past the first 3 seconds of anything he's done.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1136747311.jpg

Seahawk 01-08-2006 10:41 AM

Listened to an extended version of, 'Cowgirl in the Sand' (thank you Sirius!) today...great.

But, what do I know: I like Waits and John Prine.

Superman 01-08-2006 12:45 PM

Waits is great. Young is a genius. His music is just his music. It flows from him. I'm not sure how much it matters to Neil whether his music is popular or not. He's bee plugging away, forging his own musical style, for several decades now. Nothing changes that.

Who saw that concert in which Neil had a couple of HUGE amplifier-props and some little cloaked people as stage hands? In my view, if you can watch his performances and still call him a poor artist, then you just cannot recognize art.

Vetter is a whiner. Oddly, I don't consider Young or Dylan to be whiners. Young endeared himself to the grungies when he told Miller Beer to pound sand.

You guys who think Young is not a good artist, how do you explain the observation that two thirds of Young's music is nasty, messy, intense, ugly....and the remaining third is the most beautiful melodious and sweet music you ever heard. Like (of course) Harvest Moon versus Keep On Rockin' In The Free World.

nostatic 01-08-2006 12:51 PM

There is a town in north Ontario,
With dream comfort memory to spare,
And in my mind
I still need a place to go,
All my changes were there.

Blue, blue windows behind the stars,
Yellow moon on the rise,
Big birds flying across the sky,
Throwing shadows on our eyes.
Leave us

Helpless, helpless, helpless
Baby can you hear me now?
The chains are locked
and tied across the door,
Baby, sing with me somehow.

Blue, blue windows behind the stars,
Yellow moon on the rise,
Big birds flying across the sky,
Throwing shadows on our eyes.
Leave us

Helpless, helpless, helpless.

TimT 01-08-2006 01:04 PM

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Who saw that concert in which Neil had a couple of HUGE amplifier-props and some little cloaked people as stage hands?
I saw that concert. I believe he was using those props around the time the Return of the Jedi had just come out,or perhaps the original Star Wars. I thought the little cloaked people looked like the the poeple that traded the droids perhaps. The huge amps and were cool, and the little cloaked people with the glowing red eyes scurriied around the stage moving the set.

Ive been to quite a few Neil Young concerts, some were truely awful, other concerts were transcendant experiences.

TimT 01-08-2006 01:16 PM

Heres a pic of what I remember seeing at the Neil Young tours with the little cloaked people.. They reminded me of these characters from Star Wars.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1136758509.jpg

Jared at Pelican Parts 01-08-2006 01:43 PM

Zamfir, the pan flute god, luring little children to the giant boiling pot of doom.

azasadny 01-08-2006 02:16 PM

My favorite "non-singer" is Joe Cocker, I just could never get into Neil Young...

BlueSkyJaunte 01-08-2006 02:35 PM

Mother Love Bone rocked.

I'm a star dog baby.

K.B. 01-08-2006 02:42 PM

Explaining why Neal Young is good would be like explaining why grid girls are good. Some things can't be just explained by words. You either feel the energy or you don't.

MichiganMat 01-08-2006 03:40 PM

Oh man, Pearl Jams "Ten" album rocks my socks off. I don't listen to it every day, but its a screamer by any standard.

However, my ears were just coming to age around the time of grunge and I practically grew up with Pearl Jam, STP, etc etc. Never was into Nirvana though, don't know why they don't rock me.

As for Neal, he's a true original for sure. Him and Waits and the Dead and Cocker, etc. If technical skill were directly related to artistic beauty we would all be listening to classical music and Rock-n-Roll would never have flourished. Few people want to hear artists pratice scale runs and arpeggios, John Patitucci can is a fine example of that. I don't care how fast he can play, he bores me to tears.


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