Phoenix is appropriately called ''Hoodzo'' (which translates to, ''"the place is hot,"'' in the Navajo language) and ''Fiinigis'' in the Western Apache language.

I hear ya! Look but no touch. I value my life.:D Cali has a bit of everything out there. Only been in the northern section though.

The Keys are one of my favorite places. I shoot down there a few times a year. Only bad thing is the work situation. Other than working on a fishing boat not much money to make for a newcomer. I looked into a transfer in the Fla area with my company but no luck.

Interesting - I've never compared Phoenix and St. Petersburg before...

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Phoenix looks nice. Cal has all the problems after all the fruits and nuts came here:) That includes Mul.

We have earthquakes, firestorms, smog, earthquakes.
Man, it is just plain unhealthy to live here.;)

Fiinigis......they can fix that with penicillin right?

Plus the congestion and traffic you don't!

Of course that's all relative.

Ski in the morning and boating by the afternoon.

Doesn't get much better.

Just be careful about your commute...going the wrong direction at the wrong time of the day and you'll pay.

Can't beat Seattle for boating.

But its pretty crowded here.

And the girls are kind of pale and grumpy.

And it rained for 62 out of the last 63 days......(not kidding)

He's NOT kidding...same thing happened down here. No joke, it rains a LOT in the Pacific Northwest. That's west of the mountains. East of the mountains, much less rain, but hot & dusty summers, cold & snowy winters...a high desert climate in Eastern Washington & Oregon. Both states are to the left of Karl Marx politically...

Omaha RAWKS

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South Carolina is very nice, but you wouldn't like it here. Yankees don't usually do well.

Mexicans are everywhere now. There isn't a single part of America that doesn't have it's portion of illegals living in it, about 15 million so far and about 8000 to 10,000 more each month.

Oregon isn't bad, a bit rainy, but lots of good beer. No sales taxes, but income and property taxes are very high. Washington, just north of the Oregon border is a good compromise. Shop tax free in Oregon and pay far fewer other taxes so far, but it's got a very socialist oriented government and getting worse.

You'd probably fit in in South Florida, lots of people from your area are there already, but then it's pretty costly to buy decent housing, and it's very hot in the summer. Some of the Keys are reasonable, my wife and I looked four years ago, but there's only one road in or out. North Florida is very southern, so that's a no go.

Moving is hard.

You could come to Canada. We now have a fascist government - just like you guys - but the medical care is better, the media doesn't have quite as brown a nose as yours seems to have, and generally there appears to be a higher degree of tolerance here for people who are not flag-waving nationalists. Just a thought. PM me for real estate prices.

Hmmm, Vancouver. The place is crawling with refugees from Hong Kong, and when I was last up there in the mid-90's my car window was broken in a smash and grab robbery, in the locked hotel parking lot.

'joggerphy', as they say in the south, don't mean squat. Happiness is where your friends and family are. If you're unhappy in the Garden State, you'll most likely be unhappy wherever you go.

Sorry..

One word: Adapt

While I dread the long overdue Cat. 5 I have learned from the 3 storms that hit me and can live life like nothing happend the day after a storm.

You tend to learn more and more evey year.

Example, I was just informed by a buddy that he can add a capacitor to my A/C system that will cause it to draw 1/2 the aperage during start up and allow me to use a common generator to run my entire house.

I am installing a 15KW generator in 2 weeks that will run my house A/C and hot water heater included. Once that is in place a Hurricane is nothing more than an excuse to take a couple of days off of work and do overdue and now necessary yardwork.

If a Cat 5 hits here I am pretty sure there will be nothing left. I bought a house in the NC mountains near Procon just in case. ;)

Oh boy, here we go...You do know that fascism is a type of socialism don't you?...How did that last liberal socialist party work out?...Corrupt?...They always are.

BTW...Your conservatives make our socialists look like conservatives.

I moved here the day after Wilma. Seriously, 1 day. I stayed at my brother's in Sunrise (close to Ft. Lauderdale). No power for 7 days. That was pretty much the worst of it. VERY cold showers. I just hung outside till I got really hot, and then it wasn't so bad. We set up a projector and a huge movie screen and had neighborhood movie nights. Lotsa fun.

Not trying to downplay it, but its really blown out of proportion from what I can tell. I mean, in central NY we would have blizzards that would shut things down for a day or so. And the rest of the time, it was grey and rainy/sleety/dirty. I am sure a large hurricane would really suck (or blow, I guess:) ), but I'm surely willing to deal with that to wake up every day living here. If you couldn't tell, I love it.

wludavid wrote: "oldE, you make NS sound great. What's the employment situtation up there?"
I checked the Government of Nova Scotia website yesterday, they are claiming 8% unemployment. It varies from area to area. Most of the 'action' is in Halifax (about 330,000). I was in the city last week, in the downtown area. It took me 35 minutes at rush hour to get out to the highway, because of traffic. I had to laugh at myself. A lot of people here look at that as a normal commute. Much of the province is rural, and you can still pick out the accents in the areas settled by Scots, Germans, and Yorkshiremen about 200 years ago. Also, the western area of the province is still predominently Acadian (the ones who came back after the deportation, some of those who stayed away are Cajuns)
Yes I put the old E into the garage for 5 - 6 months, but you've got to have winter or you can't produce maple syrup!
Drop by for a visit sometime.
Les

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Thats what I'm trying to get away from!:D

If it comes down to Fla, the Gulf coast or Keys would be my choices.
I know the housing cost is high, but for what I could get for my house in NJ , I could buy a palace down there.

The traffic cant be any worse than the NYC area!
I wouldnt move to Seattle per say, Id want to be a little east of it.
I,ve been out there about 6 times (climbed Mt. Rainier a bunch of times). Mabye east of Redmond, that area. Like I said , if I was single i'd be out there already. But the wife hates that climate.
I agree with Hard Drive on the pasty girls. Yuck!!:D