kqw, you're spot on. Do good things.

ianc

quote:Originally posted by gr8fl4porsche

Guess the year - I was using an Apple IIe?



1982?

Very close - 1985 but the Apple may have been purchased around '82.

:D Impact made

It was the same time as the TRaSh80s...

I don't get why profs get bent out of shape when you show up late or dont show up for class! If I can pass the test and finals who cares. Besides I'm the paying customer. If I dont want to show up for a class I'm paying for then that's my business. Why should this be reflected in my grade if I do the reading and can pass the exams.

Just another reason I thought college was a complete waste of time.
At least my no core classes. Just a money machine, they keep adding extra credits needed to graduate just to make more money, not for the students benefit.

I mean really, how much do I actually need to know about greek mythology to run a flooring business, dental practise, Retail shop.

LOL!

LubeMaster,

I had a professor like that for some EE class I've long forgotten. He maintained that (deadlines = "real world"). Well I've been in the real world for a looong time now and it confirmed what I suspected in college - deadlines slip and get fudged all the time.

In my business (software) if you don't slip a deadline once in a while you just aren't on the leading edge.

This is what I would do in your (current) situation:
1) If I thought they might throw out the assignment now that it's worth zero, I'd tell them in as timely as manner as possible (email?) to hold on to their work. No need to tell them why.
2) Explain the situation to the Prof who has "tied your hands" with the deadline rule. Basically, go to bat for the 2 students.
3) Let the students know the outcome of #2 privately after class.

-Chris

You make a very good argument. The thing is these assignments all build on each other and many are done in team environments (not unlike work).

Let me ask you this, as you grow your business you have to hit certain deadlines - either for bank loans or customer requirements or the printed matter for ad space and so on.

Perhaps the strictness of the deadlines is over done but it is a lesson and a tool for building upon. The 'lesson' learned is discipline and accountability.

As for not using Greek Mythology in everyday life? Having degrees in engineering, chemistry and philosophy I can honestly say that my work in philosophy has made me more successful in business and science than my training in anything else. The practice of critical thinking, analysis and mythical interpretation has made a world of difference. I may not remember all the tales but the tales of quest and personal development that was discussed are spot on even today.

Classes are built on one of two platforms - they either provide you reference data to use in a task or they train your brain how to work effectively and solve problems. The really good courses do both and the really good profs will demand excellence while providing both useful information that can be applied and train you how to take that information and become wise.

As for the schools being money machines? You haven't spent much time at a state university have you?

Wayne - I call BS on that. Anyone as successful as you has hit the deadlines then some.

Your gonna tell me that your roll-outs and even your publisher lets you hand in stuff when you want? Your bank will let certain items float according to your time frame and not theirs? You want to fly to the east coast to evaluate a new vendor and you decide that you will grab the plane any old time you want regardless of the departure time? Your sales manager is supposed to have the latest quarterly results and also provide projections so you will have something to show the bankrollers the profits in order to get some more $$$ for a few more servers or an expansion on the warehouse or to bring more talent on board? Your wife lets you take out the trash anytime or you get the cars registered or emissions checked when ever you feel like it? These are only a few examples but I think you get the point.

Sooooo Mr. Mike......

Whadda you gonna do????

Pass of fail them????

I got some tail last night so they get a nod! They should thank my wife and not me. Well, that wouldnt be a very good idea... I wonder if this is why wars begin and business's fail?

Old saying:

"It's not getting beat up that disturbs the mind, it's beating someone up that disturbs the mind"

Update:

The two kids that I canned handed me their assignments and then some extra stuff - I gave them the nod and pulled them aside. I asked them why they thought I should accept it - one kid said cuz I seemed like a pretty "cool dude" and the other kid was a bit smoother (almost like he read this thread) and went into a controlled rant about second chances and perseverance and recovering from adversity...

OK OK Jiminy Crickets!! Lets not do this again guys - you will get the grades. This has plagued me for a week! I don’t get paid enough to care as much as I do!!!

Payment, in many cases comes in different ways and.... at different times....

Good mojo in that Mike. Good mojo.

The sr. prof - my boss (who is a real hard arse) has some serious med isues and will most likely retire next year.

The world is a great shape - round. Whats comes around, goes around...

They showed up early with their project and you refused them...that is a prick move in my mind

They did hand it in on time though Lube...I'm guessing the sylabus didn't say 'To be handed in no earlier than "X" and not Later than "Y".'


I've give you a B+ on adding a little positive Mojo into the LubeMaster account. :D

I am sure that "deadlines" can be argued either way depending on the situation and level of consequence should the deadline be missed.

Deadlines MET in some cases can result in negative outcome if quality is compromised because of strick adherence to a deadline.

I laugh and shake my head sometimes when I occasionally watch programs about building cars/cycles where everyone is stressed and yelling about the deadline. Employees working all day and night to me doesn't lend itself to quality results.

I shuddder to think that the deadline factor may be one issue that has had a negative affect on the domestic car manufacturers today.