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86 911 03-06-2006 10:51 PM

Selling the 911 - Does the ad read ok?
 
I am selling my 911 and put the ad up on craigslist and pelicanparts. I've gotten no emails about it yet (listed for about a week) so I want to ask if my ad reads ok? Is the price too high? BTW, I'm targeting out of state buyers since the car cannot pass CA smog with the Euro engine.:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/269456-1976-911-cabriolet-w-3-0-sc-engine-great-condition.html

jim72911t 03-07-2006 12:01 AM

Matt,
Sorry to see it (and you) go. Nice car. Two concerns, though: Salvage title and no smog possible in CA. Plus, it's a '76 (first year of no smog in CA), and some might not care for the mods or the interior.

Not trying to be a naysayer here, but your price might be a bit high.

Give it a while, and see what kind of bites you get.

Going with an E36 M3?

Good luck,
Jim

450knotOffice 03-07-2006 12:31 AM

I'm sorry to see that you're selling, Matt. This must be a huge disappointment for you.

Oh Haha 03-07-2006 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 450knotOffice
I'm sorry to see that you're selling, Matt. This must be a huge disappointment for you.
I think he's getting a newer M3.

Sorry to see you sell her, Matt. I wish I had a 911 at your age.
Wait, I had a Corvair. Does that count?

Good luck on the sale.SmileWavy

Shaun @ Tru6 03-07-2006 04:47 AM

A couple of things jump out at me Matt.

"I'm pretty sure the previous owner rebuilt both."

Buyers want surety if nothing else.

Also, the smog issue. Clearly it's a gorgeous car (except BBS as note), so as a buyer, I'm wondering why you don't just drop a different engine in it and keep the car. And for someone out of state, how can you have owned it for 1.5 years, why the trouble now with the smog stuff?

lastly, why does it have a salvage title?

It's a beautiful car for someone, but I'm afraid someone with $12K and set of 7x9's sitting in storage.

Hope I wasn't too harsh, good luck.

pbs911 03-07-2006 08:31 AM

Nice looking Pcar. I too was forced to sell out of state b/c of smog. I would like to see more facts, not your opinions of facts. Lay out the details. Your list cannot be too long.

As to the price, I sold my 78 SC with a hot 3.6 convesion for $19k.

Eric 951 03-07-2006 08:57 AM

You don't mention if the top is fully functional. I have seen cabrio-lized targas where there is no top, just a tonneau cover--may help you sell if you clarify this.

TerryBPP 03-07-2006 09:03 AM

The part that says "has a 1978 3.0 lite European engine with 47K miles and the transmission has around 20K miles. I'm pretty sure the previous owner rebuilt both." does not make me feel secure.

If you don't have reciepts on the rebuild, consider it never rebuilt.

vash 03-07-2006 09:32 AM

young matt, you are asking way too much for the car. sorry to see it go. are you staying with porsche?

ubiquity0 03-07-2006 09:50 AM

Sorry to hear you are selling. I hope you're going to buy something else fun!!

I agree w/ most of the other comments.

The salvage title turns off many prospective buyers, and those who it doesn't turn off are not willing to pay as much as if it were a clean title (because they know when it comes time for them to sell they would get less for it).

It sounds like there is no way to verify the mileage on the engine, or rebuild history... so thats a 'neutral' point i.e. doesn't really add value. It looks like the car doesn't have Carrera chain tensioners fitted, which does cast some doubt on the rebuild (in the vast majority of rebuilds this would typically be done at that time, if they hadn't already been fitted). The 3.0 SC engine is a plus overall though (over the original 2.7).

The "painted very close to an "Indian/Gaurds Red" comment is a little off-putting.

Most (but not all) buyers would prefer Fuchs... so would probably figure in the cost to get a nice set of 7's & 8x16's into what they would pay.

Smog is a huge issue. Targeting out of state buyers with a modified car like this is difficult- the further from stock the car is the more important it is to see it in person.

What exactly would you need to do get the car smog compliant in CA? If this is going to cost you, say, $1500 or less I think it would be worth it!

As it is, with the right buyer I think $12,000 might be possible if you are very patient. $17,000 is 1977 930 money (for a clean titled car)!

I hope this doesn't come across as too forthright! Car does look great though- good luck with the sale & the new vehicle hunt!

M.D. Holloway 03-07-2006 09:58 AM

Matt - it pases emissions yet you still have to get rid of her? Are you thinking that it will fail next year? I am not sure I fully understand.

Also, did you do the wheel flares or were they on it when you bought the car?

nostatic 03-07-2006 10:04 AM

it's a sub-$10K car imho. Agree with all the above comments. I'm not sure I'd put any money into it though, as there are some things that you cannot overcome (the salvage title, cab/turbo-look conversion).

The car does look nice, although what wheel/tire size is up front? It looks lost in the wide fender...and are the flares metal or fg?

M.D. Holloway 03-07-2006 10:09 AM

Oh ya for what it is worth as long as we are providing constructive criticism, your add reads way too passive and wishy-washy. I would not mislead a prospective buyer but I am certain that the copy could be tightened up to read better and provide some additional enticement.

If you put it on e-bay, try to get a local honey or two to pose with it in a skimpy swim suit. Visit your local strip joint and for $5 you could take your pick. $25 would bring about a quick date and $100 would make you a happy man - forgetting about getting rid of your ride.

You can even make up a story about how 17 year old sweetie’s like the bottom buzz they get from the vibration of the engine when you "drive" them to school and that you have to sell the car because your manhood is getting over worked and is now in pain and in need of a rest from all the attention the co-eds are giving you!

BTW - for $4/word and 5% of the net sale, I will write an ad that will bring some hits!

widebody911 03-07-2006 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
Matt - it pases emissions yet you still have to get rid of her?
Not with out an air pump, EGR valve, injection runners and thermal reactors it won't.

Nice looking car, but the ad has a sort of wishy-washy feel to it.

Salvage title + smog issues == track car candidate.

Looks like it would make a good 3.2/3.6L conversion candidate, which if done by the rules eliminates the smog issues.

}{arlequin 03-07-2006 10:11 AM

i think he's looking for an elise... ;)

pozdrowienia SmileWavy

M.D. Holloway 03-07-2006 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by widebody911
... the ad has a sort of wishy-washy feel to it.
Jinx - you owe me a Coke!

Shaun @ Tru6 03-07-2006 10:12 AM

Aren't there "plug-n-play" inspection engines out in CA? Seems like it would be a good business assuming people could keep their traps shut.

"Oh, and you need new shocks too..."

:)

M.D. Holloway 03-07-2006 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by }{arlequin
i think he's looking for an elise... ;)
He may want an Elise, but his wallet may only get him a Lisa!

widebody911 03-07-2006 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
He may want an Elise, but his wallet may only get him a Lisa!
She's only 20, but already well past her prime...

http://www.1000bit.net/lista/dati/ap...sa/lisa210.jpg

nostatic 03-07-2006 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by widebody911

Salvage title + smog issues == track car candidate.


I was thinking the same thing...full cage, some wide rubber...


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