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911skb 03-14-2006 09:25 AM

I'm surprised nobody asked Legion, what did this guy see in his rear view mirror at the drive thru that made him want to buy you a meal?

Did you really look that pathetic / broke? Made the guy think, "man those people are bad off, I better buy them lunch" ;)

Maybe we should take up a collection plate for Legion. :D

DonDavis 03-14-2006 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by legion
He didn't approach me.

He didn't try to convert me.

He didn't even wait for me to try to contact him.

Charity should not be measured by how much one gives, but by how effective one's giving is.

This kind of stuff happens way more than most folks realize. The people that perform these gestures NEVER tell anyone they did it. That would defeat the purpose.

I would do a very poor job of explaining the theory on here so I'll let someone else.SmileWavy

KNS 03-14-2006 09:38 AM

[QUOTE]posted by sammyg2

I do give to others through my church but not 10% as suggested many times in the bible.


Does God keep a Balance Book?

MichiganMat 03-14-2006 10:14 AM

So, in a way... you got served.

Sunday morning, ITS ON!

Oh snap, no you didn't!

Jims5543 03-14-2006 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by DonDavis
I would do a very poor job of explaining the theory on here so I'll let someone else.SmileWavy

I dont do it to total strangers. I do however help those around me who I see need help or are struggling for whatever reason and I do not do it because its the christian thing to do I do it because I want to help.

legion 03-14-2006 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by singpilot
Legion;

What you have to remember is that when someone looks in the mirror and sees you behind them, they see the look that is on your avatar.

For the record, that's not a picture of me in my avatar. I'll let someone else identify the picture.

I'm pretty careful about keeping my likeness and personal information off of the internet. While I trust most of you, I don't trust anyone who might be lurking. I do give out personal information by PM (the number of things I've bought and sold among forum members kinda necessitates that), but not on public posts.

Drago 03-14-2006 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by legion
For the record, that's not a picture of me in my avatar. I'll let someone else identify the picture.

"It would be nice to have that kind of job security."

widebody911 03-14-2006 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by 911skb
I'm surprised nobody asked Legion, what did this guy see in his rear view mirror at the drive thru that made him want to buy you a meal?

Anyone driving a 944/951 has to be short on dough...

Nathans_Dad 03-14-2006 11:01 AM

Matthew 23:23

"Away with you, you pettifogging Pharisee lawyers! You give to God a tenth of herbs, like mint, dill, and cumin, but the important duties of the Law -- judgement, mercy, honesty -- you have neglected. Yet these you ought to have performed, without neglecting the others. "

Various places (mostly in the Old Testament) refer to giving a tithe to "repay" someone for a blessing or gift. Also, the word Tithe originated from the word for Tenth in Old English. I'm not a Biblical Scholar or historian, but that is my understanding of the origin of it.

P.S. Don't let this thread go too far, it shows a Chrisitian actually doing something good, not trying to subvert the lives of Americans everywhere and crush their individuality...

legion 03-14-2006 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by widebody911
Anyone driving a 944/951 has to be short on dough...
Hah!

Anyone driving any Porsche has to be short on dough.

SmileWavy

911skb 03-14-2006 11:33 AM

Ain't that the truth. In fact I could stand to skip a few meals for the benefit of the Porsche fund.

tabs 03-14-2006 11:51 AM

Just don't stand between me and my ribs or you'll find out about Christian mercy first hand when you wind up talking to Gawd about it. Gawd will say, "Better to have stood in front of a herd of elephants then Tabs. " Gawd is a little behind the times, he doesn't recognize that the modern world has things like Freight Trains.

Jims5543 03-14-2006 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
Matthew 23:23

"Away with you, you pettifogging Pharisee lawyers! You give to God a tenth of herbs, like mint, dill, and cumin, but the important duties of the Law -- judgement, mercy, honesty -- you have neglected. Yet these you ought to have performed, without neglecting the others. "

So we are supposed to be like the pettifogging Pharisee lawyers and give 10%?

Again not being a smart ass just trying to understand where this whole 10% comes from. It seems to be the Pharisee is being blasted and you would not want to be like them. It alsmost seems it is more important to follow the "important duties of the law" rather than be cincerned with how much tithe you are giving the church. Maybe I am reading that passage wrong.

djmcmath 03-14-2006 12:30 PM

Jim, I don't have time to look it up right now, but it seems like it's an OT requirement based in Levitical law. I'll see if I can find it later this evening, but the idea was that the Levite tribe didn't do any work except God's work (you know, in the temple), and they were supported by the tithe from the other 11 tribes.

As many have pointed out, Jesus never re-iterates a command for 10%. He never says "If you want into heaven, you need to give X amount." There's no NT scripture discussing the minimum requirement, or what will get you into the "black" in God's "Balance Book." Somehow, people have latched onto 10% as a convenient thumbrule -- maybe it just works well in a base-10 number system. It seems more like Jesus is asking for everything, come to think of it, almost along the lines of what sammyg2 was saying -- it seems like Jesus argues more for a "love people, don't stress over possessions" position.

(shrug) I'm sure someone else can express this better than I can.

Nathans_Dad 03-14-2006 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Jim Cesiro
So we are supposed to be like the pettifogging Pharisee lawyers and give 10%?

Again not being a smart ass just trying to understand where this whole 10% comes from. It seems to be the Pharisee is being blasted and you would not want to be like them. It alsmost seems it is more important to follow the "important duties of the law" rather than be cincerned with how much tithe you are giving the church. Maybe I am reading that passage wrong.

To me the passage is saying that the lawyers were giving their 10% tithe yet not living their lives in a Godly way through their actions. Note the last line "Yet these you ought to have performed, without neglecting the others." To me that means that not only should they be giving their 10% but also treating others in the way God would want them to.

As far as the 10% thing goes, I think it is just a teaching from the OT which the church has continued. No where does it say that you have to tithe to have a relationship with God or to get into Heaven. If any church is teaching that, run away quickly. To me, tithing is my way of giving back to the church so they can continue their work. I don't get hung up on 10%, I give whatever feels right to me.

Jims5543 03-14-2006 12:44 PM

Got it!! Thanks for your help.

vash 03-14-2006 01:12 PM

i am flying southwest airline end of the month. i have a stack of those free drink coupons. i plan on getting my area buzzed.

sammyg2 03-14-2006 01:40 PM

The bible mentions giving a tenth throughout the old testiment and in the new testiment also, just not as often.
And no, God does not keep a balance book but he knows what is in our hearts:
2 Cor 9:7 (Jesus said:) Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

You can twist it around anyway you want but the whole point is that man should care about his fellow man and take care of one another. Sharing wealth with those less fortunate is one example. I can imagine that some folks think that is a sucker's belief, but we are judged by how we care.

Icemaster 03-14-2006 03:49 PM

You know, from a devout agnostic, Kudos to I SRV HIM.


Regardless of your religious/spiritual convictions, that was a damn fine gesture.

Shuie 03-14-2006 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by nostatic
I thought this was a Stevie Ray Vaughn thread...
Me too. I want my click back!


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