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Moneyguy1 03-17-2006 07:38 AM

"telemarketing companies out of India"

Suggestion: a police whistle.

Rikao4 03-17-2006 07:52 AM

Just me Vic, if my brother pulled that sh34 with my little girl.. I let him know ..next time ,your going to need more than a prayer to save your sorry as3. and no I'm not going to your party.
Rika

Neilk 03-17-2006 08:06 AM

A friend of a friend of mine is very well versed in world religions. He lives in Denmark and had a Mormon or JW knock at his door. Knowing about their religion, he invited them in and started have a long theological discussion with them. Apparently, the Mormons or JW have an odd belief that nothing really belongs to them. So he asked about their prayer book and asked if it belonged to them. One of them said no, so he asked if he could have it. The missionary was hesitant but the Dane convinced him that since he didn't really own, that he should have it....

The Dane showed my the Mormons prayer book that he had kept...lol

island911 03-17-2006 08:12 AM

"no thanks; I'm trying to quit."

pwd72s 03-17-2006 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kurt V
I answer the door naked.
Hoot! A retired Navy Chief here told me did exactly that...Imagine a 5'10" 65 years old, Navy tattoos, balding, and 350 pounds. He also bellowed: "What the F**K do YOU want"? He swears they've never come back...

techweenie 03-17-2006 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by trekkor
You are not rejecting them . You are rejecting their message.
They don't take it personally.

If you don't want to be visited again, make it known.
Why be rude?

KT

I have to agree. They are there for what they are convinced is your good. I figure people who abuse JWs probably also abuse waiters & clerks. There is/was this thing called the Golden Rule...

svandamme 03-17-2006 10:33 AM

eeh , nope, i don't abuse any waiters, or anybody else for that matter
but whoever bugs me uninvited , get's it. i seriously dislike beeing bugged in my crib. it's the only space that's my private space, and that's it. i usually even have my doorbell disconnected because of all the idiots that rather randomly push all the apartement buzzers, then actually reading which one they need to get through the first door.

the Golden Rule to me is , you don't bug people in their crib because you think you need to for your own spiritual or financial health. that's rude... and anyone who starts off rude, get's the favour returned.

JavaBrewer 03-17-2006 11:07 AM

tech - Define *abuse* when dealing with unwanted spiritual solicitation? I know people who abuse folks working in the service industry (retail & food) and they are not the same.

Don Ro 03-17-2006 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
I have to agree. They are there for what they are convinced is your good. I figure people who abuse JWs probably also abuse waiters & clerks. There is/was this thing called the Golden Rule...
I used to tolerate door bell ringers/door knockers and phone solicitors...but no more.
For decades, my friends have all been informed to call prior to crashing into my mood by showing up on my doorstep unannounced. It's a reciprocal act of courtesy on our part. In fact, I don't answer the phone much anymore - leave a message and I'll consider it.
To me, the ringers/knockers/solicitors are taking a risk that they will be accepted/welcomed or not.
That's their risk, not mine.
I consider it rude behavior.

trekkor 03-17-2006 07:25 PM

It sounds to me like some of you don't want to be visited by anyone unannounced.

As for those who say they answer the door naked.
What, do you stay naked whenever home, *just in case*.

Or, do you look throught the hole... " just a minute !"
Drop your pants and then open the door?


KT

trekkor 03-17-2006 07:32 PM

Quote:

I consider it rude behavior.
Why? For taking 30-60 secs of your life a few times a year?

There are bigger problems out there...


KT

Tobra 03-18-2006 07:04 AM

You guys crack me up. I always say, not interested, good luck to you.

If I am feeling frisky, I will stand there holding my pit bull mix by the collar and tell them to talk quick, I don't know how long I can hold her back!

Speaking of solicitors, my wife had some guy come to the door and ask if she had heard of some "mission" that turned out to be a halfway house for parolees that is based out of Texas somewhere. He was asking for donations, and she is telling him no, and he gives her grief about not ever being homeless so she is insensitive. He is having a little trouble talking, because of the dogs barking(she had both of them), spraying spittle and trying to squeeze through the space of the partially open door so they can rend him limb from limb, they are very protective of my wife BTW. He asked her to put the dogs up or step out on the porch, so they could talk.

She went off on him. "Who the hell are you to give me a hard time because I have always had a job and never been to prison. Do I look stupid enough to invite a convict into my home, or step outside with you? I am from Texas, and if you are still standing here after I close this door you will get shot." He left.

pwd72s 03-18-2006 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by trekkor
It sounds to me like some of you don't want to be visited by anyone unannounced.

As for those who say they answer the door naked.
What, do you stay naked whenever home, *just in case*.

Or, do you look throught the hole... " just a minute !"
Drop your pants and then open the door?


KT

The retired Navy CPO I know lives in a rural area...long driveway.
With his dog, he gets plenty of warning "somebody's coming". He lives alone, so I suppose can be as dressed or undressed as he pleases....

trekkor 03-18-2006 12:47 PM

Title of the thread asks for way to be polite.
You can decline with good manners.

Why are people today so bent on offending, being harsh or rude as a form of personal entertainment?

I don't get it... "It's my right to be mean"?

Let's say when you were a child, and Mom at the dinner table asks if you would like a second helping of broccoli.

Did you say, "don't ask me again or I'll shoot you"?

How about, "no, thank you".

Sheesh:mad:


KT

Tobra 03-18-2006 01:00 PM

Rude is never my first response. In the story I related, my wife had told him no, and he turns into an agressive panhandler on the porch. Sort of twists the topic of the thread, but if they are harassing you, is it okay to respond in a cold manner then, or is it just turn the other cheek no matter what? The Golden Rule is still in effect, but there are a lot of them out there that are rude, aggressive and to me, that is unacceptable when I am in my home.

svandamme 03-18-2006 01:01 PM

KT , it's my right to do whatever i want , on my property
whoever insists to invade my personal space, agrees to subject himself to whatever i may be in the mood for ... think of it as one of those EULA's you'll find in software

you click yes yes yes , agree, agree agree,

just to get what you want

sometimes, you wish you actually read the bugger, since it did say the software would lace your machine with spyware and spam...

svandamme 03-18-2006 01:36 PM

and another thing,

those who come to sell their faith , do it because they are convinced that they have to do it to save as much souls as possible, and in the process save their own soul...

my cold , and rude denial , results in a challenge to their faith.


either they rise to meet the challenge, and come out a winner

or come to realize their faith ain't all that ,and makes them rethink their situation and become an atheist acid tripping boozing heathen like me ( wich ain't that bad, trust me on that one )

either way , i'm still doing them a favour , by giving them decent workout , faith wise


if they flunk it , and give up ,
they wern't all that convinced about it in the first place ,and shouldn't have bugged me with their confusion
and with some luck ,they will evolve in to a hedonistic state such as the one i'm in now ( which , is , might i add, not a state that goes around bugging people , but knocking on their front door, just to tell them that my state is better then their state of spiritual consciencnous)

if they pass , and continue, then frankly , my rudeness only strenghtens their resolve ... and i still did them a favour...

trekkor 03-18-2006 01:53 PM

I've got to wonder, how often do you actually get uninvited visiters to your home?


So you're saying that your "little song and dance" is some sort of faith testing and strengthening exercise?

I'm sure after your "show" is over and they move on to the next door, they've already forgotten you.

People who go door to door have seen/heard it all...


KT

svandamme 03-18-2006 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by trekkor

I'm sure after your "show" is over and they move on to the next door, they've already forgotten you.

People who go door to door have seen/heard it all...


KT

then why should i worry about beeing polite and **** to a bunch of doorwhores?

trekkor 03-18-2006 02:08 PM

Quote:

why should i worry about beeing polite

You'll feel better about yourself.

Being kind, can at times be more difficult than being mean.
Being mean serves no purpose.

You'll alway feel better if you are a pleasant and peaceful man.


KT


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