Ingraham smackdown of Carville/Gregory

Mulhollanddose · 03-21-2006, 08:55 PM

Mulhollanddose · 03-21-2006, 09:01 PM

Better yet, the video version...link (scroll down to the image of Laura Ingraham)

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

5 minutes I'll never get back. wow...she's more annoying than I thought. How is her pontificating any better than the "left's" side? Bias trash from both angles...

Like she actually hung out in Iraq under "typical" conditions for any length of time. Puhlease...I'll bet her brie was at room temperature just like here in the states...

Mulhollanddose · 03-21-2006, 09:11 PM

I enjoy debate, and she obviously takes to task the activist media and their treasonous coverage. The media is wielding its vast powers to undermine the war. They are obscuring truth and focusing on the negative. Laura Ingraham exposes this and illustrates convincingly, via the art of debate, that the left are hypocrites and liars.

An open mind would discern this, alas Todd, you haven't one.

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
I enjoy debate...

An open mind would discern this, alas Todd, you haven't one.

well, your version of "debate" reminds me of a Monty Python sketch...

I have an open mind. It's why I'm still learning at 44. But none of the participants on the audio have one. Left or right. LI is as much a tool as the others. And she cares about ratings, not the truth.

A discerning mind would get that, but...

rrpjr · 03-21-2006, 09:44 PM

Good, but she was still too polite. She had Gregory stammering, then stepped back. The problem with people like David Gregory is they've had it far too easy -- never getting challenged, never being called on their bullying righteousness and aggressive bias. It would so easy to do. I could eat Gregory for lunch. But no one wants to look mean to the media, or in front of them. "Niceness" as a function of fear is a moral failing. The man, or woman, who dares to be mean, who pushes them past their shallow certainties and smug conceits, presses them straight back into the corner, and exposes them as the snarling jackals they are, will win the day. It's not a matter of meanness, but justice. Laura is dead right. They have no interest in telling the story. They've written their story already. They are in fact determined opponents to the truth, and taking them on is part of this larger war. Who will do it?

Mulhollanddose · 03-21-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by nostatic
LI is as much a tool as the others. And she cares about ratings, not the truth.

Whether or not she is concerned about ratings is irrelevant. One can care more for agenda than ratings and still have a show; this is demonstrated regularly by the leftists who dominate the media and academia. One, on the other hand, can be ratings focused and realize that the best way to bolster ratings is by objectivity and truth...This explains FoxNews and why liberal talk-radio fails (liberal talk radio is exceptionally difficult for liberals because debate destroys them quickly).

I would be happy if journalists announced their beliefs before launching into an obviously biased news report. What I love about the Conservatives is that they do not hide their beliefs and pretend objectivity....The top journalists for the major networks are all lefties--Wolf Blister, George Steponallofus, Bob Schiffer, Dan Blather, Tim Russet, Chris Matthews, Keith Olberman, Katie Couric, etc, etc, etc...Seems the monopolistic left media only has room for anti-war Republicans like Scarborough and Carlson. When the left media has a Republican on, he is buried by lefties in often a 3to1 ratio or at best a 3to2 ratio, and dog-piled on, or simply referenced out of context and then demonized (Ann Coulter comes to mind).

FoxNews and Conservative talk radio at least do an honest job at objectivity, as opposed to hiding behind a false front of journalism.

rrpjr · 03-21-2006, 10:20 PM

Good points. What Fox News did that so scandalized the major media was to challenge the presumption that a conservative had to be a token. For 50 years the cosmopolitan media wrote the rules and controlled the game as surely as the ancien regime of France. Then along came Fox. But Fox didn't merely set up their own rigged game -- they gave plenty of air time to liberals, too. They approached the operation of a news channel as a great free-for-all of debate. And they rewrote the rules for how to report a story -- tell both sides. Imagine! More than that, they stripped away all the old solemnizing negativity of the elites. They wrote and reported stories with fresh and bracing balance. They combined their intrepid and fair reporting with cheerfully unapologetic conservative commentary. They were both fair and cheerful -- how much worse can you get for a leftist! Yet the people appreciated it, as Roger Ailes, groomed at TVN in the 1970s (TVN originated the slogan "fair and balanced") knew they would.

Nathans_Dad · Nathans_Dad's Garage

Just for the record, Ingraham went to Iraq over a 2 week period and visited multiple US Army bases, eating the same food the troops eat (and trust me Nostatic, there isn't any Brie cheese...I've been there) and talking with Iraqi Army Officers, US Army officers and actual (gasp) Iraqis.

When was the last time you saw a mainstream US reporter on the street in Iraq and actually interview an Iraqi? I can't remember one time since the election, personally.

Rodeo · 03-22-2006, 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
When was the last time you saw a mainstream US reporter on the street in Iraq and actually interview an Iraqi? I can't remember one time since the election, personally.

You have a short memory.

ABC News Co-Anchor Bob Woodruff and a Cameraman Injured in IED Attack in Iraq

By DEEPTI HAJELA
The Associated Press

NEW YORK - ABC News anchor Bob Woodruff and a cameraman were seriously injured Sunday in an explosion while reporting from Iraq, the network said Sunday.

Woodruff and cameraman Doug Vogt were hit by an improvised explosive device near Taji, Iraq, and were in serious condition at a U.S. military hospital, ABC News President David Westin said.

The two were embedded with the 4th Infantry Division and traveling with an Iraqi Army unit.

The U.S. military headquarters in Baghdad confirmed that the ABC News team was involved in an attack but declined to provide further details to The Associated Press. An official military statement was expected to be issued later Sunday.

Woodruff was named co-anchor of ABC News' "World News Tonight" with Elizbeth Vargas this month after the death of Peter Jennings. In an unusual approach to evening news shows, one of the two co-anchors typically reports from the studio in New York while the other reports from the field, as Woodruff was doing in Iraq.

Woodruff grew up in Michigan and became a corporate lawyer in New York. He took a leave of absence to teach at a school in China, helped CBS News during the Tiananmen Square uprising and became hooked on journalism.

"When I realized there was a job that existed in this world where I could be in the middle of huge world events and actually get paid for it, it was an epiphany for me," he told The Associated Press in a recent interview.

He has covered the Justice Department and reported from Iraq, Afghanistan, Belgrade and Kosovo.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

Copyright © 2006 ABC News Internet Ventures

Mulhollanddose · 03-22-2006, 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by Rodeo
You have a short memory.

[i]ABC News Co-Anchor Bob Woodruff and a Cameraman Injured in IED Attack in Iraq

Difference is, Woodruff went there for the express purpose of making America look bad. He was looking for the "other side" of the story. He was also looking for that big seat at one of the major three.

Laura was going to reveal the truth, the story that is seldom if ever told.

Nathans_Dad · Nathans_Dad's Garage

You're right, Woodruff was embedded and was injured shortly after the election.

Nothing since then though.

Rodeo · 03-22-2006, 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Difference is, Woodruff went there for the express purpose of making America look bad. He was looking for the "other side" of the story. He was also looking for that big seat at one of the major three.

Laura was going to reveal the truth, the story that is seldom if ever told.

You could not possibly be a more ineffective spokesperson for your "cause," which is a bit of a silver lining to your very dark cloud.

Rodeo · 03-22-2006, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
You're right, Woodruff was embedded and was injured shortly after the election.

Nothing since then though.

No reporters have gotten blown up since late January? Wow, that is good news!

Mulhollanddose · 03-22-2006, 08:13 AM

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You could not possibly be a more ineffective spokesperson for your "cause," which is a bit of a silver lining to your very dark cloud.

Facts is facts. Woodruff was making his career and he was towing the Democrat line to do it. Being objective doesn't have the same punch with the media elitists, as damaging Bush does. Woodruff was actively looking to undermine the war with his coverage...It was the only way, it was what the editorial boards want to see.

Nathans_Dad · Nathans_Dad's Garage

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No reporters have gotten blown up since late January? Wow, that is good news!

Come on Rodeo, are we going to have an adult conversation or are you going to be a bonehead today??

gaijindabe · 03-22-2006, 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by rrpjr
"Niceness" as a function of fear is a moral failing. The man, or woman, who dares to be mean, who pushes them past their shallow certainties and smug conceits, presses them straight back into the corner, and exposes them as the snarling jackals they are, will win the day.

r - have you been watching Simon again on "American Idol"??

Rodeo · 03-22-2006, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
Come on Rodeo, are we going to have an adult conversation or are you going to be a bonehead today??

Bonehead

"Good evening and welcome to Fox News.. Our lead story, Laura Ingraham has been in Iraq for 10 days under heavy security and has NOT gotten blown up. Elsewhere, a new school opened outside Baghdad, and a US Marine removed a splinter from a cute puppy’s foot. On the domestic front, the blonde babe teacher charged with having sex with her student ….”

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose

Laura was going to reveal the truth, the story that is seldom if ever told.

or maybe she was going to there try and make Bush look good.

Ever think that maybe, just maybe, Woodruff was there to spin negative, and LI was there to spin positive? Could it be that they both had ulterior motives?

Nah...the truth is whoever was spouting what I wanted to hear, the other is an opportunistic liar.

Face it...they both are chasing headlines and ratings. Period. The only thing that controls which side of the fence they fall in is probably some arcane event in their childhood...

Mulhollanddose · 03-22-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by nostatic
or maybe she was going to there try and make Bush look good.

Todd, the truth does make Bush look good...This is why the MSM and their buddies in the Democrat party are lost, they are so wrapped up in their lies.