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dan79brooklyn 04-04-2006 10:56 AM

I posted over at the BMW 2002 forum: www.bmw2002faq.com
I'm sure those guys will know a lot about those engines.

S14///MPower 04-04-2006 01:07 PM

Just a quick clarification of my original post:

Rebuild in Germany 6 years ago was $16K.
New motor from Germany at the time was about $40K.

beepbeep 04-05-2006 12:28 AM

Hmm...is it me or is that wastegate awfully similar to Porsche 930 wastegate??

S14///MPower 04-05-2006 03:06 AM

Wayne,

These engines of yours are the BMW M12. They displaced 2 litres, were N/A, dry-sump, 300-330HP. The engines were for european F2. They also saw use in iterations of the BMW 320 and Chevron's B36 "under 2 litre sports racer" class in Europe.

JK20 04-05-2006 10:04 AM

ITB's?
 
Interesting to note how these engines have ITBs instead of slide throttle. I recall only seeing slide throttle setups from '74 to '77...are these a later intake system from the early 80's? Does this make them more likely to be F2 motors rather than Gruppe 2/5? It still has the Kugelfischer pump so it was pre-EFI.

S14///MPower 04-06-2006 03:17 AM

They may be correct, Wayne. Our M12 has slide injection. As noted, yours are ITB. I don't know anything about M13s in GTP. If you could tetermine the compression ratio, I'm sure you could find your answer.

JK20 04-06-2006 07:41 AM

GTP motors
 
The BMW powered March chassis of 1981 still had slide throttle according to my pictures. It only ran the m12 at the end of the season and it was a 320i turbo motor. The program from '85-'86 used the F1 m12/14 that they punched out to 2 liter. You should start by trying to contact Erik Wensberg who ran the teams for BMW-NA. Hans Riedel was head of marketing for BMW NA at the time.
Good luck

911-m5 04-06-2006 07:00 PM

Wayne,

Prototype Technology Group (PTG) in Virginia has been involved in caring for Te historic racecars owned by BMW as well as helping develop new BMW race cars for some years. I am sure they could be of help to you.
www.ptgracing.com

Allan


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