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IROC 04-05-2006 05:41 PM

V for Vendetta
 
Just saw this movie this evening. Excellent show. It should be required viewing for all Americans. The parallels and underlying commentary on what is going on around us are astounding.

Mike

legion 04-05-2006 05:48 PM

After Natalie Portman went away to college and majored in psychology, she became a smug liberal elitist. Most of the movies she has done since have been political trash. I assume this is no different. Either way, it won't be getting my money.

Markus33 04-05-2006 06:03 PM

Oh well, education has that effect sometimes.

Speaking of movies, I loved The World's Fastest Indian, starring Anthony Hopkins.

A must see for any gear head.

http://www.worldsfastestindian.com/

DaveE 04-05-2006 06:16 PM

I became a smug liberal elitist in 10th grade. College had little effect.

hunter914 04-05-2006 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by legion
After Natalie Portman went away to college and majored in psychology, she became a smug liberal elitist. Most of the movies she has done since have been political trash. I assume this is no different. Either way, it won't be getting my money.
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David E. Clark 04-05-2006 06:58 PM

All the best movies are produced by ...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1144288631.gif

;)

fastpat 04-05-2006 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by legion
After Natalie Portman went away to college and majored in psychology, she became a smug liberal elitist. Most of the movies she has done since have been political trash. I assume this is no different. Either way, it won't be getting my money.
The actor's private life is irrelevant. Go to the movie. I'm going tomorrow.

Do it.

http://tinyurl.com/nqxqy

legion 04-05-2006 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fastpat
The actor's private life is irrelevant. Go to the movie. I'm going tomorrow.

Bull$h!t.

I'm voting with my feet. It is my right not to spend my money to enrich the lives of people I disagree with.

cantdrv55 04-05-2006 07:22 PM

I saw the movie and I understand the parallels. But, it left the audience hanging in the end. Who was he really? How did he end up that way? Maybe I missed it when I went to take a leak.

Moneyguy1 04-05-2006 07:28 PM

Legion:

Sometimes I find that it is to my advantage to read a book or see a film with which I think I will disagree. At least it gives me insight into what the other "side" is doing and thinking. Without that advantage, I am like religious groups that come out against something without ever investigating it beforehand.

I wait until the movie has been out for awhile and buy the DVD from Hollywood Video at a reduced price. When I am finished, if I don't want it in my collection, it makes a wonderful and inexpensive gift or an excellent skeet target.

legion 04-05-2006 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Legion:

Sometimes I find that it is to my advantage to read a book or see a film with which I think I will disagree. At least it gives me insight into what the other "side" is doing and thinking. Without that advantage, I am like religious groups that come out against something without ever investigating it beforehand.

I wait until the movie has been out for awhile and buy the DVD from Hollywood Video at a reduced price. When I am finished, if I don't want it in my collection, it makes a wonderful and inexpensive gift or an excellent skeet target.

I was going to wait until it was on USA. I didn't say I wouldn't watch it, I'm just not going to pay for it.

86 911 04-05-2006 07:37 PM

I thought this thread would be about PWD72's Viperous Vendetta ;):
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=235811&highlight=vipero us
Seriously, I've never seen the movie, but now that you mentioned it, it looks like I'll have to rent it.

fastpat 04-05-2006 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by legion
Bull$h!t.

I'm voting with my feet. It is my right not to spend my money to enrich the lives of people I disagree with.

Have you vetted your doctor, dentist, pharmacist, vet, car repairman, car dealer, the clerk's at the various store's you buy from?

If not, then you appear to be a hypocrite. Or your feet are really busy.

legion 04-05-2006 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fastpat
Have you vetted your doctor, dentist, pharmacist, vet, car repairman, car dealer, the clerk's at the various store's you buy from?
Last time I checked, none of those people were spouting their ignorance on television either.

And besides, let's just say that my area is the political opposite of Cook County...

fastpat 04-05-2006 07:51 PM

The trailers...
http://vforvendetta.warnerbros.com/trailer.html

epbrown 04-05-2006 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cantdrv55
I saw the movie and I understand the parallels. But, it left the audience hanging in the end. Who was he really? How did he end up that way? Maybe I missed it when I went to take a leak.
I suspect you did - they told you pretty much everything but his name. V was a homosexual or other undesirable scooped up during the early cleansing raids, and sent to Larkhill where he and others were experimented on with the drug later used to fake the terrorist attack that brought the Chancellor and his cronies to power. He escaped during the explosion at Larkhill but was horribly mutilated. He spent the next 20 years tracking down and killing everyone responsible, with the film following the final year of his vendetta.

I like the film, but then I don't take it as a political documentary. Alan Moore wrote the graphic novel as an indictment of England under Margaret Thatcher (whom he dissed in pretty much everything he wrote at the time), but people have seen some parallels with post-911 America and the Patriot Act, kind of like people saw all sorts of religious themes in The Matrix.

IROC 04-06-2006 04:22 AM

To me, one of the main themes of this movie deals with how a complacent society can stand by as government introduces more and more control (in the name of "protection") until the vast majority of the populations's rights and liberties are erased. This struck a chord with me as I see this happening now. Things like the "Patriot Act" are pitched to us as a means to make us safer and more secure, but another way to look at it is that fear (of this ill-defined enemy called "terror") is being used to remove our freedoms.

In my way of thinking, living in a "free" society carries certain risks with it, but I am willing to accept those risks for the benefit of being free.

One (paraphrased) line out of the movie was very good, "People shouldn't fear the government - government should fear the people."

Sure, it's just a movie, but I think there are important themes brought out that are applicable to what is going on around us.

Mike

Jared at Pelican Parts 04-06-2006 05:00 AM

You all should really read the graphic novel...

bryanthompson 04-06-2006 06:32 AM

what is this "graphic novel" nonsense? Is it a comic? It's okay to admit that it's a comic... no need to be ashamed. I mean, ya'll talk about cutting your ball hair with each other. :rolleyes:

island911 04-06-2006 06:57 AM

Re: V for Vendetta
 
Quote:

Originally posted by IROC
Just saw this movie this evening. Excellent show. It should be required viewing for all Americans. The parallels and underlying commentary on what is going on around us are astounding.

Mike

Really!? . ..a STORY which has parallels?

Where have I seen THAT trick before? :rolleyes: . . .hmmmm. . . the bible? . . anything tabs writes? -- nah. . . these "parallels in a story" sound like some sort of far-out, misguided, unintended artifact of "entertainment." :rolleyes:


:cool:

dhoward 04-06-2006 07:01 AM

A few more posts with you guys runnin' your yaps, and I won't need to see the movie...
:rolleyes:
:)

TerryBPP 04-06-2006 07:03 AM

I won't watch it now just because you guys made it sound like a political satire.

I hope its not a shocker that anyone in Hollywood is a misguided, uneducated fool. But money seems to equal intellect over there. And yes, I know Natilie Portman went to college. But she didn't exactly study rocket science.:D

The world will be a better place when actors and atheletes make $50k a year.

legion 04-06-2006 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TerryBPP
The world will be a better place when actors and atheletes make $50k a year.
My point exactly.

ZLP 04-06-2006 07:46 AM

I want my $20 and two hours of my life back from seeing that movie. It was boring....

fastpat 04-06-2006 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TerryBPP
I won't watch it now just because you guys made it sound like a political satire.

I hope its not a shocker that anyone in Hollywood is a misguided, uneducated fool. But money seems to equal intellect over there. And yes, I know Natilie Portman went to college. But she didn't exactly study rocket science.:D

The world will be a better place when actors and atheletes make $50k a year.

Still, both actors and athlete's earn an honest living, unlike any politician who are no more than leeches on the public body.

Moneyguy1 04-06-2006 09:06 AM

pat does allude to a very interesting point:

Why is it that career politicians can say and do what they do but when a professional anything else tries it, so many say they have no business stating their views publicly?

Isn't this some sort of double standard? What disqualifies an actor os athelete from making a (political) statement? Just the fact that we disagree with him or her?

'Tis a puzzlement....

techweenie 04-06-2006 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
pat does allude to a very interesting point:

Why is it that career politicians can say and do what they do but when a professional anything else tries it, so many say they have no business stating their views publicly?

Isn't this some sort of double standard? What disqualifies an actor os athelete from making a (political) statement? Just the fact that we disagree with him or her?

'Tis a puzzlement....

Not really. You won't see the usual crybabies whining about conservative actors.

bryanthompson 04-06-2006 09:15 AM

moneyguy, it's simple...

If a politician says or does something stupid, people choose not to vote for them.

If an actor says or does something stupid, people choose not to spend their money watching their movies.

There's no censorship... they can say whatever they want, but they should expect people to vote with their wallets.

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I won't see this movie because it doesn't look interesting, and I've walked out of too many movies recently. It's just a bad movie season, to me at least.

Jim Richards 04-06-2006 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by legion
I was going to wait until it was on USA. I didn't say I wouldn't watch it, I'm just not going to pay for it.
What a fine display of principles. Definately deep-root convictions here. :p

techweenie 04-06-2006 10:09 AM

I think we all have to be very careful of the secret messages in comic books and comic book heroes.

http://www.superdickery.com/seduction/64.html

mikester 04-06-2006 10:18 AM

I thought it was good commentary on the slippery slope of trying to balance "security" with "Civil liberties" and "Freedom."

Interesting commentary and a generally entertaining movie. My wife and Sister who I saw it with enjoyed it as well and it caused me to question: "Are we as free as we were 20 years ago?"

Are we?

scottmandue 04-06-2006 10:35 AM

Didn't get much interest form me... seems like an old formula for a movie...
Unsurmountable evil beating down the the little guy...
In the end little good guy miraculously overcomes unsurmountable evil.

Star Wars?
Matrix?
Lord of the Rings?

Moneyguy1 04-06-2006 10:48 AM

bryant..

Good points but if true, why do so many policians who say stupid things continue to get re-elected? Is it because what they say is only stupid to those outside their district or state (or party)? The Senator from Alaska comes to mind....

And as far as actors and atheletes "speaking their minds"..Seems as if people still buy tickets, as if they can separate the person's screen or athletic skills from their outside views.

austin552 04-06-2006 11:06 AM

I will probably get it on bootleg. :p

speeder 04-06-2006 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TerryBPP
I hope its not a shocker that anyone in Hollywood is a misguided, uneducated fool. But money seems to equal intellect over there. And yes, I know Natilie Portman went to college. But she didn't exactly study rocket science.:D
Let's see, a quick mouse click to IMDB reveals that:

She has been working non-stop as an actor since age 12 including multiple theatre festivals and starring roles on Broadway + 22 films and still managed to get accepted to Harvard University, where she graduated in 2003 w/ a degree in psychology, (takes discipline to study that hard in a trailer between shots, she must be brilliant), plans on ditching her acting career and 8-figure annual income to become a doctor.

And you, assclown? :)

fastpat 04-06-2006 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bryanthompson
moneyguy, it's simple...

If a politician says or does something stupid, people choose not to vote for them.

There is a huge difference.

Quote:

If an actor says or does something stupid, people choose not to spend their money watching their movies.

There's no censorship... they can say whatever they want, but they should expect people to vote with their wallets. I won't see this movie because it doesn't look interesting, and I've walked out of too many movies recently. It's just a bad movie season, to me at least.
Athletes and movie stars don't send men with guns after you if you don't do as they say. Athletes and movie stars don't send young men to foreign lands to kill people and be killed themselves.

Athletes and movie stars are an overall good, politicians are an overall bad.

fastpat 04-06-2006 01:19 PM

Re: V for Vendetta
 
Quote:

Originally posted by IROC
Just saw this movie this evening. Excellent show. It should be required viewing for all Americans. The parallels and underlying commentary on what is going on around us are astounding.

Mike

I went to the noon showing of VfV, it was stunning. Definitely should be viewed on the big screen dolby sound.

speeder 04-06-2006 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by speeder
Let's see, a quick mouse click to IMDB reveals that:

She has been working non-stop as an actor since age 12 including multiple theatre festivals and starring roles on Broadway + 22 films and still managed to get accepted to Harvard University, where she graduated in 2003 w/ a degree in psychology, (takes discipline to study that hard in a trailer between shots, she must be brilliant), plans on ditching her acting career and 8-figure annual income to become a doctor.

And you, assclown? :)

EDIT: Almost forgot, also says that she speaks 5 languages fluently including Hebrew, plus passable Spanish. A moron, obviously.

speeder 04-06-2006 01:36 PM

Looks better than you in a thong, as well. Game/set/match. :)

gaijindabe 04-06-2006 01:39 PM

So much Hollywood schlock. I mean, this is the guys who made the Matrix fantasy movies..

Our current political climate is more like the frog being slowly boiled. Local school boards hiking taxes endlessly, public pensions and benifits that need to be paid for, endless government borrowing. Liability laws and insurance and lawsuits. Cops that act as revenue collectors or out of boredom.

As the Chinese say - "Heaven is very high, and the Emperor is far away." 99% of politics is local, but 99% of the complaints are national...


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