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914GT 04-13-2006 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by hunter914
Please post 5 news stories backing up your assertion that the media portrays the economy negatively.
These links provide some examples of negative reporting, or reporting by omission, by the media.

http://www.freemarketproject.org/news/2006/news20060410.asp
http://newsbusters.org/node/4544
http://newsbusters.org/node/4812
http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2006/cyb20060410.asp#4

Jim Richards 04-13-2006 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Tax cuts stimulate the economy and increase government revenues.
Didn't B1 refer to this as voodoo economics?

BTW, google +CNN+consumer+confidence and you'll get a mix of positive and negative reports. I'll bet it's similar with other sources.

hunter914 04-13-2006 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by 914GT
These links provide some examples of negative reporting, or reporting by omission, by the media.

http://www.freemarketproject.org/news/2006/news20060410.asp
http://newsbusters.org/node/4544
http://newsbusters.org/node/4812
http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2006/cyb20060410.asp#4

Thanks GT. So I clicked on the second link, read the story, and immediately went to read the study noted. Given the study Nul posted, and the first page of which I did, you can see how I would need to look up sources given Nul's history of lying by omission, this thread being the best most recent example.

Going to the NACE website, I wanted to get the survey. Here's what I got:

Renew Your Membership Today! It's easy. Call Georgia Casey, membership services coordinator, ext. 133, 800/544-5272, to request an invoice or renew online today with your credit card.

Do you have a membership so we can all look at the entire study?

From there we can move on.

you know guys, facts are facts. Don't blame the media for facts reported you don't like.

Now, let's get that study.

Mulhollanddose 04-13-2006 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by Jim Richards
Didn't B1 refer to this as voodoo economics?
How'd that work out for him?

Jim Richards 04-13-2006 11:10 AM

it still hasn't worked out, not even for B2.

Mulhollanddose 04-13-2006 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by hunter914
you know guys, facts are facts. Don't blame the media for facts reported you don't like.
Lies are lies, media bias is media bias...I blame the media for the lies and distortions that drive down economic confidence via "talking down the economy."

Jim Richards 04-13-2006 11:11 AM

and mul is mul, is, well, whatever... ;)

Mulhollanddose 04-13-2006 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by Jim Richards
it still hasn't worked out, not even for B2.
B41 learned the hard way that raising taxes ain't wise. He earned Clinton the Presidency with that unwise move.

Jim Richards 04-13-2006 11:15 AM

yes, we "heard" you the first time. So let me repeat, embracing it hasn't worked out for B2.

hunter914 04-13-2006 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Lies are lies, media bias is media bias...I blame the media for the lies and distortions that drive down economic confidence via "talking down the economy."
You blame others for your inadequacies because you know nothing of personal responsibility.

Mulhollanddose 04-13-2006 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by Jim Richards
yes, we "heard" you the first time. So let me repeat, embracing it hasn't worked out for B2.
Apparently you have been watching some variation of leftist media...They are lying to you.

914GT 04-13-2006 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by hunter914
Thanks GT. So I clicked on the second link, read the story, and immediately went to read the study noted. Given the study Nul posted, and the first page of which I did, you can see how I would need to look up sources given Nul's history of lying by omission, this thread being the best most recent example.

Going to the NACE website, I wanted to get the survey. Here's what I got:

Renew Your Membership Today! It's easy. Call Georgia Casey, membership services coordinator, ext. 133, 800/544-5272, to request an invoice or renew online today with your credit card.

Do you have a membership so we can all look at the entire study?

From there we can move on.

you know guys, facts are facts. Don't blame the media for facts reported you don't like.

Now, let's get that study.

I don't have a membership, but if you question the source, here's the Reuters story referencing the same study.

Moneyguy1 04-13-2006 12:20 PM

I cannot let this go....

John Lott..author of the book "More Guns, Less Crime"and "The Bias Against Guns". Thought by some tobe based on flawed data.

Member of American Enterprise Institute (right wing think tank)

http://timlambert.org/lott/

www.lewrockwell.com/lott-arch.html (list of Lott's writings, Lew is a Libertarian political commentator)

Then you gotta ask: www.whoismaryrosh.com/ This gets interesting. A fabricated name apparently used by Lott to hawk his book.

An interesting fellow.

DaveE 04-13-2006 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Lies are lies, media bias is media bias...I blame the media for the lies and distortions that drive down economic confidence via "talking down the economy."
B2 could be accused of talking down the economy when he began his run for Prez. I remember him saying in '99 that 'things aren't as rosey as they look'.

Mulhollanddose 04-13-2006 07:25 PM

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Originally posted by DaveE
B2 could be accused of talking down the economy when he began his run for Prez. I remember him saying in '99 that 'things aren't as rosey as they look'.

He was accused of "talking down the economy" by the political party that has been talking down just about everything he has done for the last 6 years, including the economy...no, I take that back, EVERYTHING he has done for the last 6 years....Classic projection or transference.

RoninLB 04-13-2006 08:44 PM

if you want to keep a complicated issue simple monitor GDP & overall job creation.

The only real uncertainty beyond a catastrophe is the policy of the new Fed Chairman concerning interest rate policy. Political bs affecting the economy hasn't been considered a drag.. yet.

The Fed Chairman said in his political posturing that the tax cuts add to and will continue to add stimulation to growth.. [hopefully the Reps don't screw up that policy]

Seriously adding to budget deficits will eventually be harmful to growth if it continues at the current Rep rate. Otherwise the historical best way to handle budget deficit is from a high growth rate, not tax increases or devaluation of the dollar, and responsible spending.

Having a dynamic economy means that everyone is never completely happy.

and don't forget the politics in election mode.

Mulhollanddose 05-10-2006 05:24 PM

http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/060508/allie.gif

914GT 05-10-2006 05:57 PM

Here's another story that did not get a lot of media attention today:

WASHINGTON

A flood of income tax payments pushed up government receipts to the second-highest level in history in April, giving the country a sizable surplus for the month.

In its monthly accounting of the government's books, the Treasury Department said Wednesday that revenue for the month totaled $315.1 billion as Americans filed their tax returns by the April deadline. The gusher of tax revenue pushed total receipts up by 13.4 percent from April 2005.

It marked the largest one-month receipt total since the government collected $332 billion in revenue in April 2001, reflecting a boom in capital gains from stock investors lucky enough to cash out their investments before the bursting of the stock market bubble in early 2000.

914GT 05-10-2006 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by 914GT
Here's another story that did not get a lot of media attention today:

WASHINGTON

A flood of income tax payments pushed up government receipts to the second-highest level in history in April, giving the country a sizable surplus for the month.

In its monthly accounting of the government's books, the Treasury Department said Wednesday that revenue for the month totaled $315.1 billion as Americans filed their tax returns by the April deadline. The gusher of tax revenue pushed total receipts up by 13.4 percent from April 2005.

It marked the largest one-month receipt total since the government collected $332 billion in revenue in April 2001, reflecting a boom in capital gains from stock investors lucky enough to cash out their investments before the bursting of the stock market bubble in early 2000.

Edit: Apparently this did not happen or it was a minor oversight by the networks. No mention of it on CNN, CBS, NBC or ABC. What a surprise.


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