My apologies
 

To everyone on the board, to Joe especially, I apologize for the stunt I pulled with the Fintstone bet. Suffice it so say, it's one of the dumber things I've ever done and I am ashamed and regret it.

I'm sorry.

I haven't been able to even read through the first half of Joe's thread, but I believe Rodeo got caught up in this somehow. I wish I had his intelligence, wit and wisdom to be sure. Please accept my apologies.

Take care all.

Shaun

OK, I know I'm new here, but by the apology alone you are feeling you're off the hook? Just wondering if you're going to "man up" and pay the bet...

It takes a big man to admit and apologize. Good job Shaun. It's going to take quite a bit of time to regain trust though.

Now about them girlie shirts. Will you please stop posting pics? Talk about glutton for punishment.

Well done!



What did you apologize for?

If the first words out of your mouth after reading the above were WTF, here we go again......



I have made someone's day.

Shawn's posted a few times asking for Joe's info to send him the $. Dumbest thing I've ever seen anyone do, but it would at least appear he's doing the right thing.

I've stayed away from this train wreck (deliberately) but here's a sideline view:

The ability to admit wrongdoing is lost on virtually everyone these days. It shows remarkable courage and character to do so.

However, as was (correctly) said above, that alone will not rebuild the damage done to one's character by dishonesty.

I applaud Shaun for having the gonads to admit he was wrong though. I wonder how many of the stone-chuckers here would EVER have the balls to do that. . . Probably none. In that regard, he's the bigger man than 99% of the people here. In the regard of being dishonest in the first place, he's probably worse than 99% of the people here. Anyway, hope you all give him a chance to earn (key word - EARN) back the trust of people on this board.

If Shaun needs a broker for this deal, I have Joes address - this time I am gonna charge a 10% handlers fee though...

Problem is that his PM inbox is full (wonder why??!) and have emailed him my info but no reply to date. He could Pay Pal me the funds and have it done and over with in an hour, but guess he has decided not to go this route. Really not excited about getting another check from him at this point for some reason.

Fessing up to your sins is a good start. If he is serious I accept but if its more of his "social experiment" then he is in for a long road ahead of him... He sure has stepped in the brown material on this one.

Joe, I PM'd you back that I cleaned out my PM box. Why the game?

You might be surprised to learn that it was full of support PMs. Members have rightfully piled on in public, no need to in private.


EDIT: Haven't gotten your email, just PM it now. Won't make to the bank today, but will tomorrow.

Couldn't say it better myself. Bravo.

I have sent the information to you three times. Just did it one last time, and thats the last time it will be sent. Stop playing games.

You can be a man and end it today with Pay Pal, or keep playing games by sending a money order or cashiers check. NO PERSONAL CHECKS this time. Had enough of this game and do not forget to include my bank charges.

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Re: PMm cleared out

You can do it faster with Pay Pal. joeaksa@XXXXXXX.XXX

For a cashiers check or money order (no personal checks this time), address is:

Joe Abrahamson
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Phoenix AZ xxxxx

$500 plus $30 for bank charges.

Lets not "social experiment" with this one shall we?


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Shaun 84 Targa wrote on 04-17-2006 12:40 PM:
Hey Joe,

Just cleared out my PM Inbox.

S

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Joe, you are one sick f�ck! I replied to your PM and I also posted several times on threads that you are subscribed to that I have your address and will be sending a money order.

Take a look at the timestamp on this one: 4:07. It's 4:53 now dude.

Hey, I was stupid for pulling this, but geez man, you are proving my point that you are one sick puppie.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1145307260.jpg

Someday you will figure out that when I say that I am overseas that at times it takes me an hour to get on the board. At times I have a good connection but other times I have been knocked off for several hours at a time.

Pay your bills in the first place and you would not have had this problem!

Joe, you've been posting non-stop for hours now. Get a grip man. I apologized, I said I was sending you a money order, and you've only responded in small and petty ways.

It's so easy to be apologetic these days and expect the slate to be wiped clean. It's much harder to behave honorably all the time so that you don't have to say you are sorry or that you were wrong.

I suspect Joe will have nothing more to do with the perp once Joe is made whole. A PayPal transaction takes less than a minute to complete.

I agree. It seems the only time people admit they are wrong anymore is when they are caught red handed. I notice Shaun didn't apologize until he dug his hole so deep he couldn't climb out of it.

Agreed again...

Thank you gentlemen. I have no idea what this new game is, wanting to send me another check over doing Pay Pal which would clear this up immediately but then we all know that G9 is not doing normal things all the time.

"non stop posting for hours??" Read your time stamps again. Was off of it for almost 2 hours having dinner, then lost all signal in my room and had to come to the exec lounge to do this. Shaun you are living in another world, but then your buddy is even worse...

Joe, your member name is 3rd on the list at the bottom of the OT home page. You don't get there by losing your signal recently. You've been on for quite some time.

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Jeesus F'in Christ!!!! Pay him the money!!!!!!! Let's move on, already!!!!!

Actually that order is meaningless. Notice you're last in the list?

yes, I'm last because I am on and off every time... a new browser window each time. It's a chronological list of consistent open window activity, first on, first in.

Idiot, you think that I take the laptop with me to dinner!!???

It stays plugged in here in the room, connected to the WiFi here. Am downloading some TV programs over the internet from my house in Phoenix. When the signal is descent I let it run, when its not I move it into the exec lounge and press on.

The signal comes and goes, right now have 36%. Its enough to be logged on to the webpage but not enough to post long replies.

Just what does this have to do with your not paying me the money you owe me? Keep trying to find holes in my story, which you will not.

Time to hit the sack, its 23:38 over here... hope you all have a good time fleshing this out...

That is easily as good of a story as my experiment! Good job Joe. Money order is going out tomorrow. Man, people were right about you!

STFU and pay Joe. Enough, already.

this horse has beat'n to the point that no organic matter exists...maybe its the ol wear'm out technique?

But if Shaun pays up what the heck am I gonna do all day tomorrow??;)

Wrong.

Whatever social experiment it was you were running, I certainly hope that "total loss of trust and credibility" was factored into your equation.

Get your facts straight, pay Joe his money ans STFU.

Remember that perception is reality.

Whatever. you guys still think bush is doing a good job. Reality is reality. Period. if you want to live in your own perception bubble, go right ahead.

Oh, and STFU.

Couldnt care less about your version of a political argument, I dont' care one whit whether you or Joe are politically accurate or whose party is better - it don't matter to me.

In this case:

Perception - Shaun welched on a bet = Shaun is untrustworthy and lacks integrity & honor.

Reality - Anyone considering doing business with Shaun (professionally or personally) thinks twice. Or thrice.

Did you think about that little wild card vis-a-vis your start-up venture? Things have a way of boomeranging back at one I've learned.

Wow.

WTF?!
I never, ever mentioned Bush. It's not political. It's a matter of losing a bet and paying up. What is so hard to understand?

Holy sh...

I've been paying no attention to this stuff, so excuse my unawareness of the chain of events, but it seems like somebody needs to sit down and read this little ditty that I'm glad I read as a kid:

[IF]

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

--Rudyard Kipling

It's Bush's fault the check bounced! Now we're getting somewhere ..... :rolleyes: :D

Shaun - the Pelican OT forum may not be the real world, but it's part of your world, and I wish you could see how horribly you are damaging that world. There are currently three threads running in concern with you and your credibility. In one of those threads, as I read it, it sounds as if Nostatic is all but ready to ban you from OT entirely.

Yes, this forum may not have an incredibly large bearing on you or your business, but when one reaches 1,000 posts, the Pelican board undoubtedly holds something for them whether it be from an interest in cars, personalities, politics or just general blather/entertainment.

This thread that you began ("My apologies') is a very good start toward reparation. But I'll also call to your attention that at the point I am writing this post, no one who you've at one time aligned with, except for Rodeo, has posted on it. Not Cool Chick, not Speeder, not even Tabs. That says to me these people have lost faith in you, at least for the time being. I do hope, however, that this loss of faith is not permanent.

You apologized, you said you'd repay Joe, and in all honesty, that is the most you can do. This tit-for-tat back and forth you're engaged with is not helping your cause. I think you should just step back, breathe a bit, and motor about your life w/o Pelican OT for a while. For the last two days, starting with the "experiment" I have read nothing but frustration in your words that have now gone not just from defensive to offensive, but offensive toward an entire community who feel, as you confirm, taken gross, if not strange, advantage of.

IMO, you'd be better off focusing your energy on the orders you have to fill that have stacked up since your March show, and expanding what looks like your boys version of G9. It'll do you a hell of a lot better than hanging around here, digging yourself into nothing of real value.

Again, just pay Joe, let your apology stand, and be done.

Best of luck with everything. SmileWavy

dd,

I commend you, sir, you've got class. You're a giant among men.

Randy

Thanks, Randy.

Like I've said, I just hate to see a guy go down in flames over something as trivial as what the last three days' worth of posts on this topic have shown.

and on that note...this has gone on way too long. Nice closer dd...thread dead.