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German Air Aces of WWI
I scanned this article from an old magazine I found.
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Thanks for posting. I really enjoyed reading the article. What was the magazine you scanned it from?
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An old magazine (circa 1979) called Air Aces. Later on I'll scan an article about the first jet aces.
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The story of Werner Voss is amazing...he was a rival of Von Richtofen and was given the then new Forker Triplane along with one to Von Richtofen...
It was a match made in Heaven for Voss...he was able to make the little plane do incredible things and in 21 days he shot down 22 airplanes bringing his score to 48. His end came in September 1917 when he met up with the British 56 Squadron which was composed of the British Ace of Aces..Included in the fight was McCudden with 56 victories, Arthur Rhys David 25 victories and five other British Aces...of the 7 Voss met up with 6 were aces with 185 combined victories. For 15 minutes Voss was able to twist and turn the little triplane, virtually being able to make a turn without banking...he was able to shoot up the planes of the entire British Flight...putting bullets and badly damaging every plane..Then suddnely Voss plane was flying in a straight line and crossed the path of Rhys David...David sending him to the ground...was Voss wounded was his plane damaged no one knows but the partcipants never forget that encounter.
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Von Richtofen was wounded in July of 1917, when a bullet grazed his head....at that time he had 60 victories. After the near fatal wound he was never the same...he was home on leave and his Mother asked him about the flyers in a photograph he had...she said," what about this one" he said, "Dead"..."this one"..."DEAD" and then Ricthtofen said, "Don't ask anymore they are ALL Dead"
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Pilots during WW1 didin't use parachutes, even though they were availbale to the observers in Balloons. It wasn't until the last months of the war that the German pilots started usinng them...one Erich Lowenhardt with 50 victories bailed out with a paprchute in August 1918, but his chute failed to open...
One of Americas top Aces Raouel Lufenbury with 17 victories...and member of the famed Layfette Escadrile...was so afraid of fire in his plane that rather than burn to death he jumped..... The life of Pilots in WW2 was amazingly short... I believe that at one point in the war it was 2 weeks for British fighter pilots... Yet amazingily the top French Ace Rene Fonck with 75 victories and second only to Ricthofen in total score started flying in 1914 and SURVIVED the war without ever being shot down or wounded...he rarley ever got a bullet in his plane...Fonck claimed that he shot down 137 planes but only 75 were confirmed...
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If you really like this, I suggest you read "To the Last Man" by Jeff Shaara. It is historical fiction, but discusses the aces on both sides.
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Or how bout...."They Fought for the Sky"...by Quentin Reynolds..published during the 1930s it covers the Air Aces on both sides...
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Like almost 60 of them....starting with the DIII Albatros..it had a monque plywood fuselage...
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Forget the Zimmerman Note... Fast...
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How come I jsut knew you were going to Poo Poo the Zimmerman note...
My Gawd is EVERYTHING A FORGERY, FAKE or A LIE too U....even habitaul liars sometimes tell the truth....and in that Fast U hasve LOST credibility...
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The Gulf of Tonkin Incident we know now never occured, for example. The US Maine had a coal dust explosion, not an attack by Spain, the Lusitania was carrying a huge load of munitions making it a legitimate target, and on and on. The hiring of advertising agents by the federal government began under Wilson; he had hundreds of them ginning up stories out of whole cloth, for the consumption of the gullible. |
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Gulf of Tonkin, Maine and Lusitatnia....are agreed fakes, Forgeries or Lies...
Time tends to out those kind of things...but the Zimmerman NOte...I don't buy that... Lincoln said... You can fool all the people some of the time, some of the people all the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time." or sumthin like that....
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Hitler said, "The bigger the lie the easier to sell." or sumthin like that...
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The Hearst newspapers were the primogenitor of the Spanish American War...talk about BUlly Boy Illegal wars...and that was 1898....
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I knew a WW1 pilot years ago. There is a pilot organization I belong to and he was a member. Had many a long conversation with him. He flew a Sopwith Camel and loved the airplane.
If you are not familiar with them, most of the WW1 planes did not have a throttle. You had an on and off switch and a two position lever for speed. The engine was either idling or full throttle. As well these were true "rotary" engines, with the entire engine rotating on a shaft mounted to the airframe. Having this large lump of metal rotating up front really made the plane difficult to fly at times, it turned very fast in one direction (due to the rotation of the engine) and very slowly in the other direction. You "blipped" the gas until you got lined up with whatever direction you wanted to take of in (there were few runways then, just open fields and you took off in the direction of the wind) then opened the gas up full bore and up you went. Tabs is correct about the parachutes. No one had them at first then they came in later in the war but many pilots refused to use them as they were not really trusted. These planes were fabric covered over wood and they used a flammable "dope" to paint on the fabric. This made the planes a great fire risk and many a pilot died when the plane caught fire and plunged to the ground. If you want to read a very good novel about these guys and this time in Aviation, find a copy of "Gentlemen of Adventure" by Ernest K. Gann. Its one of the best and well worth reading.
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The Albatros had an inline, watercooled, Mercedes six cylinder engine; 160 hp initially, later raised to 180 hp. At Tabs pointed out, the Albatros had a plywood covered monocoque fuselage, ovoid in shape, which was sometimes left unpainted, or was varnished clear. Quite beautiful, like this D.VII at the Smithsonian. The Albatros may have been the most attractive fighter produced during WWI. |
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