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fintstone 05-09-2006 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by CamB
Not familiar enough with how it works there, but not really. Publicly provided or subsidized education is generally considered outside the normal framework anyway. Whadaya call them (Cam looks it up - collective good - private good provided by the govt for social reasons, ie the positive externalities of education).

I agree there is potentially market power - certainly there are monopoly elements when you exclude private college fees or travel out of state - but the reality is that education is heavily regulated (although it may not feel that way to you), including as to price.

Significant federal and state funds...as well as tuition fund public universities in the US...but each state....and sometimes each university chooses how to execute their budget and tuition costs. There is little or no competition because private schools are not govt. subsidized and cannot compete with pricing. The same is true with elementary and secondary school.

dd74 05-10-2006 12:25 AM

Don't tell me you also cut and pasted your teaching resume!

So you go from teacher to tutor, which I guess is okay if tenure can't be obtained.

But as well, you forsake the liberal arts yet also educate in subjects such as English lit and languages.

And wow, your expertise spans from Comp 101 to biology - for someone who believes universities to be breeding grounds for upheaval of all that is wrong with America, you must've hung around a long time to learn your subjects - all ten of them by your list, in fact...

Fint, you crack me up. But more importantly, you waste my time...

Peace (objectively). And out. SmileWavy

fintstone 05-10-2006 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
Don't tell me you also cut and pasted your teaching resume!

So you go from teacher to tutor, which I guess is okay if tenure can't be obtained.

But as well, you forsake the liberal arts yet also educate in subjects such as English lit and languages.

And wow, your expertise spans from Comp 101 to biology - for someone who believes universities to be breeding grounds for upheaval of all that is wrong with America, you must've hung around a long time to learn your subjects - all ten of them by your list, in fact...

Fint, you crack me up. But more importantly, you waste my time...

Peace (objectively). And out. SmileWavy

Of course I cut and paste my resume. Only a fool would not use a word processing program in this day and age to prepare a document.

Tutoring/volunteering in one's spare time to tutor folks with less financial ability seems like a community service/charity to me...I am suprised that you keep insulting me about doing it. Of course I am sure you liberals would prefer that charity be taken against one's will in the form of taxes.

I never attempted to get tenure...I taught as a public service (albeit with pay) because I was asked by the university to do so due to my stature in my field. I imagine that tenure would not be difficult to attain since the level of competition is so low. The key would be to not let anyone know you were a conservative until after you received your tenure. I cannot afford to teach, and do not do it for a living.

One has to be expert in the language to be successful in this country...and speak other languages to be successful in other countries. Nothing special or rare there...except maybe in CA.

Yes, I went to school for a long time...but, I have several degrees as a result...It is not difficult to tutor in college...you only need to know as much as the graduate student teaching the class. That is rarely difficult since the truly sharp students have real jobs waiting.

You crack me up...because you waste your own time...and mine...with these personal attacks.

Cheers!

fintstone 05-17-2006 10:09 PM

Update on Professor? Chuchill. Another liberal liar exposed.

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:57 p.m. EDT
Ward Churchill Cited for Research Misconduct

An investigation of a professor who likened some of the Sept. 11 victims to a Nazi found serious cases of misconduct in his academic research, including plagiarism and fabrications, a University of Colorado spokesman said Tuesday.

One member of the five-person investigative committee recommended that ethnic studies professor Ward Churchill be fired, and four recommended he be suspended, university spokesman Barrie Hartman said.

Churchill, who has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, declined immediate comment Tuesday.

The professor touched off a firestorm with an essay relating the 2001 terrorist attacks to U.S. abuses abroad. The essay referred to some World Trade Center victims as "little Eichmanns," a reference to Adolf Eichmann, who carried out Adolf Hitler's plan to exterminate European Jews during World War II.

University officials had earlier determined Churchill could not be fired for his comments about the terrorist attacks, but they launched an inquiry into allegations about his research.

The committee's 125-page report said Churchill falsified, fabricated and plagiarized some of his research, did not always comply with standards for listing other authors' names and failed to follow accepted practice for reporting results.

The decision on his future at the university will be made by school officials later this year. Churchill has said if he is fired, he will sue.

Churchill's wife, Natsu Saito, who also teaches in the ethnic studies department, said Tuesday she had resigned her tenured teaching position at the school but said she and Churchill have no plans to leave Boulder.

In her resignation letter, Saito accused the university of reneging on promises to her and the department, ignoring racial harassment of the department and individuals, and treating Churchill unfairly. She said her decision to resign was not prompted by the pending report.

dd74 05-17-2006 10:26 PM

So is it more important that Churchill was fired for improper research than calling victims of 9/11 "little Eichmanns?"

fintstone 05-17-2006 10:30 PM

Obviously the University found it difficult to fire him for being a racist..or saying racist things due to hie tenure/freedom of speech...but they knew...like most loud mouthed liberals...he would be easily shown to be dishonest.

Mulhollanddose 05-17-2006 10:45 PM

The only reason that leftist slime got the teaching job was because he said he was American Indian...He lied.

dd74 05-17-2006 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by fintstone
Obviously the University found it difficult to fire him for being a racist..or saying racist things due to hie tenure/freedom of speech...but they knew...like most loud mouthed liberals...he would be easily shown to be dishonest.
Whoa! With an explanation like yours, I'd bet Churchill to have a slam dunk suit/counter-suit in his pocket.

fintstone 05-17-2006 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by dd74
Whoa! With an explanation like yours, I'd bet Churchill to have a slam dunk suit/counter-suit in his pocket.
How so?

dd74 05-18-2006 08:15 AM

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Originally posted by fintstone
How so?
Read what you wrote and ask yourself if it would stand up, just as you wrote it, in front of a jury.

jorian 05-18-2006 08:22 AM

I think fint meant to type 'republican' rather than 'liberal'. Re-write and it all makes sense, especially in front of a jury.

fintstone 05-18-2006 11:11 PM

Just like they got Capone on taxes.


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