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Mulhollanddose 05-11-2006 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Telling the truth about the worst president in US history isn't bashing, it's edifying.
Unfortunately lying to achieve it nullifies any inherent or assumed edification...You live in a backwards world, Patsy.

Tervuren 05-11-2006 08:13 PM

Mul, The whole political seen back then was a mess, and o'le ""Honest" Abe" was no better.

fintstone 05-11-2006 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by Superman
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Pat, you're not impressing people with your Lincoln-bashing. Might as well bash Jesus Christ and Gandhi. In any of these cases, you appear to be........out there.

The Civil War is practically the only thing Pat is right about. That is at least one more than Superman.

john70t 05-11-2006 09:13 PM

Just to weasle in a realty/moral-check zinger:
-"Reunification" is o.k. for North/South USA?
-"Reunification" is o.k. for Han China with Hong Kong and Taiwan and Tibet?

-"Reunification" is NOT o.k. for Iraq with Kuwait (remember the British re-drew their boundries in the 50's).
-"Reunification" is NOT o.k. for North/South Korea
-"Reunification" is NOT o.k. for North/South Vietnam?

I really don't have any opinion in the matter, justa stirrin' the fire.

fastpat 05-12-2006 04:20 AM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Unfortunately lying to achieve it nullifies any inherent or assumed edification...You live in a backwards world, Patsy.
You've made the accusation, so point out a lie I've made about Lincoln, sonny Jim.

fastpat 05-12-2006 04:42 AM

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Originally posted by fintstone
The Civil War is practically the only thing Pat is right about. That is at least one more than Superman.
I used the same research techniques, analysis, and logic on every historical event I've written about out here.

Much flies in the face of the stories written by the victors, the history of the War for Southern Freedom is a great example. The history of World War One and Two are strikingly similar, and my writings about both of them is as correct as my writings about War for Southern Freedom.

If you want to learn what I learned, you may ask for references; or not.

Keep in mind, fint, that both of my parents are what most would call war heroes; serving in World War Two. My mother received the Bronze Star with device for entering Manila durling the siege of that city five days after MacArthur arrived, the battle being second only to Stalingrad for vicious urban fighting. My father recieved the DFC for one of his 65 combat missions over europe. My understanding of history was reached despite all that I grew up with, and believe me, I didn't reach them either easily, or for unsound reasons.

Perhaps you'll arrive at where I am now, a real southern man would do so, finally realizing that the yankee problem is still causing the same issues it did 140 years ago.


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