That means the US government must be prevented from invading any country, anytime, and anyplace. And that if the US government does so, we Americans should show it no pity in the slightest.

I hope this clarified my statement.

Those Americans in a foreign country are our military, you puke.
Perhaps you should think before you type. You know absolutely nothing about ASW. Why not shut your yap while you're ahead?

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Originally posted by fastpat That means the US government must be prevented from invading any country, anytime, and anyplace. And that if the US government does so, we Americans should show it no pity in the slightest. I hope this clarified my statement. [

Sure did.
I would imagine you burned a flag on Memorial day, didn't you...
You REALLY crossed the line....

it's just a flag mate... just nylon...

F#*! YOU!! :mad: :mad:

anything made in China for 40 cts a piece can't be that important now can it...

Imagine, pledging allegiance to a textile. None of the founders did that.

The US government Pledge of Allegiance was written by a socialist minister.

Really?

I'd suggest you've crossed over the "line" years ago with your support of the world's largest terrorist state, the US government.

Am I the only one that is thinking, Subs + nuclear program + missiles = threat to America.

Note, I watched "The battle for Brittan" last night so I may be a little paranoid.

No.
YOU crossed the line by suggesting that our millitary "get what they deserve".
I'm all for expressing an opinion, but you simply spew forth uneducated hate.

That means the US government must be prevented from invading any country, anytime, and anyplace. And that if the US government does so, we Americans should show it no pity in the slightest.

I hope this clarified my statement. [/QUOTE]

Paste still believes south carolina is its own country and is still bitter about getting their asses kicked(by the Federal government) in the 1860s.

I do agree in having no pity for the traitors killed during that time.

No, all of the neo-cons want you to think that, so that they can scam you again.

Iranian subs are for coastal defense only, and would be pathetically outclassed, by almost any european state with a navy, outside their designated waters.

Paste still believes south carolina is its own country and is still bitter about getting their asses kicked(by the Federal government) in the 1860s.

I do agree in having no pity for the traitors killed during that time. [/B][/QUOTE]
You cannot be a traitor for defending your home, country, and nation.

There were traitors in 1861, the US government was a traitor to the Constitution, ignoring its' limits almost completely.

But, I'm not surprised at your ignorance of the law, you think it Okay for 28 million people to force 9 million people to be a part of their country. That's morally repugnant to liberty and freedom.

First of all, it's not "out" military, it's the US government's military. For it to be "our" military it would have to be made up largely from voluntary militiamen and women, and be a defensive force only.

And, last, your leg humping militarism be damned.

The renegade states were traitors to the Federal Government--hence the term "rebel" and "confederate".

I do think it is okay for 28 million to force 9 million to be a part of their country. It seems the only ones who do not are LOSers such as yourself.SmileWavy

boys, boys, get a room ...

So, lets not deflect.
You stated that our millitary personnel acting outside of American soil "get what they deserve".
You stated that Iranian submarines should be able to sink at least a carrier and support ships.

True?

You appear to be the one "leg-humping."
You should really stick to cut-and-paste. Whenever you try to communicate original thought, you show your ignorance.
Twit.

No, I stated that the Iranians, using all their military capability might be able to sink about one half of the US naval ships currently in the Persian Gulf. This statement is predicated on the threatened attack of Iran by the US government. I do not expect the Iranians will attack unless they're attacked first.

Of course, since the US government has faked attacks in the past, it might do so yet again to justify an attack on Iran.

Yes, I did say, and mean utterly, that when soldiers volunteer to serve this the rogue government in Washington, D.C., they deserve what they get when they invade another country, i.e. Iraq. This invasion was illegal under US law, under international law, and is immoral.

When a soldier working for the US government, particularly one that has joined it after March 2003 and volunteer to serve in Iraq, they are aiding and abetting mass murder, and deserve exactly what they get, and should be put on trial as war criminals.

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You appear to be the one "leg-humping." You should really stick to cut-and-paste. Whenever you try to communicate original thought, you show your ignorance. Twit.

When you're able to demonstrate substance to the last statement above, come back and do it.

Otherwise, it's best for you to be silent and thought a fool, that to post and remove doubt.

Pat, does every soldier have the right/duty to deny orders based on their understanding of the Constitutional constraints placed on the military?

It's their duty to do so.

fastpat.......were you ever in the military? honest question.