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If I give my word it doesn't matter if it's in writing. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but jeesh, my word is my word

All very well and admirable if the other party is playing by the same rules. If not (and companies never do), it's a recipe for your gaping anus.

ianc

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Originally posted by ChrisBennet
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but jeesh, my word is my word - it might as well be a written contract.-Chris

I agree. Karma is not something you want to mess with.

Although, a mutual understanding is different...just talk to the new employer prior to committing. Your friend may find out the new employer will make the change worth it. Alternatively, the potential new employer may let him go with a good conscience.

And Ianc, I don't see anything the potential new employer did to "not be playing by the same rules".

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Originally posted by Groesbeck Hurricane

And yes, the retirement income is significant enough to worry about and includes medical benefits after 65.

Little input on this.....

In NW Indiana where I grew up, there were many steel mills. These were blue collar jobs, but they offered medical benefits after 65. People retired, everything was beautiful. Then they started closing, and one in particular, J&L Steel, went bankrupt and somehow got out of this obligation (pensions as well). So, all these old people (they worked at a time when things like 401K didn't exist, and the company provided pension upon retirement as a benefit of employment) lost their pensions, healthcare and were pretty much left cold.

Anyone today should be wise enough to not rely on such things, but back then, that's how it was. You got into a steel mill and you were "set for life." Was like that for decades and decades.

My point, healthcare after 65 is AWESOME by today's standards, but even that's not truly guaranteed.

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Originally posted by ianc
All very well and admirable if the other party is playing by the same rules. If not (and companies never do), it's a recipe for your gaping anus.

ianc

LOL --thumbs up--

In business the only ethics that I can count on are my own.

Update, then I'll probably ask to delete the thread: Current company is asking him to leave sooner, he is asking the new company if they can take him in sooner. Guess 4 to 5 Mil a year for up to 5 years is not worth so much after all when you are closing a plant down...

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Originally posted by Groesbeck Hurricane
Interesting, looks like they are a slab of meat to the old company. It just wants to save $$$ and is not really willing to work with the person. He is even MORE HAPPY to go to the new company and let someone else learn his job.

I wonder if the old company will even assign anyone to learn the position and make the necessary changes to save the money.

Thanks yall!!! Everyone's input is/was greatly appreciated!!!

Still check and see if he is 50% or 75% vested in the retirement. If he is not a hourly employee then he may have enough hours in this year to make a difference.

When he retires it may just pay for the utilities or gas bill, and that would be nice! After all, he has worked for it and they are the ones playing games.

Joe,

Thank you! That avenue is already being explored.