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pmajka 06-20-2006 01:22 PM

Drifting a 911.
 
Just another useless thing to talk about.

so, I watched Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift.

Mindless and well Great at the same time. just enough story to put in between action scenes.

So, the question being, Would a 911 be a good drifting Car or not?

KevinP73 06-20-2006 01:38 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought drifting relied on the car being front wheel drive.

87coupe 06-20-2006 01:42 PM

The ideal setup for drifting is front engine / rear drive. Drifting a 911 can be done, it just takes a lot more skill.

84porsche 06-20-2006 01:44 PM

"The popular cars seen around the world reflect the local flavors and what is commonly available, but center around light to moderate weight, rear-wheel-drive passenger cars with an emphasis on good handling"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drift_racing

KevinP73 06-20-2006 01:58 PM

I stand corrected!

vash 06-20-2006 02:00 PM

dont worry kevin, we live in cali. we have seen plenty of FWD cars try it.

87coupe 06-20-2006 02:02 PM

If you want to have some fun drifting a front wheel drive car, find an open parking lot - put heavy plastic or metal food trays under the rear wheels - engage hand brake - and drive :p

svandamme 06-20-2006 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vash
dont worry kevin, we live in cali. we have seen plenty of FWD cars try it.


ROFL

HardDrive 06-20-2006 02:14 PM

Lets see....let me try this in my 82 SC.

Ok.....accelerating.....entering turn fast......lifting foot off throttle...

Thats funny. I'm facing the wrong way now.

Answer: No.

87coupe 06-20-2006 02:23 PM

Porsche drifting
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7434061791856754134&q=porsche+nurburgring

Zeke 06-20-2006 02:24 PM

Find and watch the Yellowbird at the Ring video. I believe that will answer your question. Funny, but I think that was filmed before drifting became popular.

speeder 06-20-2006 02:27 PM

Honestly, I don't think that you could do it right in a 911. You can do a lot to change the set-up of a 911 in terms of over/understeer, (as you can any car), but tail-heavy cars are not suited to controlled drifting where you are basically going sideways under complete control and steering. It is obviously the slowest possible way to go around a corner, so not something that race designers put a lot of energy into.

I've heard that the film is entertaining in a mindless way, (hey, it's summer) ;), I might see it. My neighborhood is filled w/ Asian stunt drivers, but none are doing tricks intentionally. :)

RANDY P 06-20-2006 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 87coupe
If you want to have some fun drifting a front wheel drive car, find an open parking lot - put heavy plastic or metal food trays under the rear wheels - engage hand brake - and drive :p
Naaw. You floor it with the steering in full lock in reverse..

Back in HS we used to take FWD cars and back up to a high curb, with one wheel touching, at an angle. Crank the front wheels in the opposite direction and drop the clutch while in reverse.

Spin steering wheel wildly back and forth and check out the cool fan shaped burnouts... ;)

rjp

bigchillcar 06-20-2006 02:29 PM

i don't track mine so i can't speak from experience, but was under the very strong impression that good drivers 'drift' their 911's on the track, like all the time..
ryan

Porsche-O-Phile 06-20-2006 02:44 PM

Break the rear tires loose in a 911 and you're liable to slide ass-end first into the nearest stationary object.

svandamme 06-20-2006 02:50 PM

liable yeah , but it's possible

i did a 20 meter high speed drift on the first day i drove mine, by accident yes, but a drift nonetheless

went in a sharp right hander thinking "slow, nasty turn , stay at 100"

but forgot i had an american imported 911, with miles

so i did 100 miles instead of km's
mid turn the backend started screeching , and flash back some thing i read " never brake or ease off the throttle in a 911 or it's buhbye"

so i floored it and steered against the turn...

it was more lucky then skilled, and i haven't been looking to do it again , cause i don't wanna bank on having the same amount of luck next time..

but it does proove that it is very much possible to drift a 911...
you just don't have the same margin of error you have in a say 944 with 50/50 weight balance....

in my 944 it's easy, just mash the loud pedal in the wet, and hte backend steps out , to bring it back in line, just ease off the throttle...

same in the dry, just need more power to break the grip and stay a drift...

teenerted1 06-20-2006 03:01 PM

Re: Drifting a 911.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pmajka


So, the question being, Would a 911 be a good drifting Car or not?

NOT!!!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1150844462.jpg

Jims5543 06-20-2006 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vash
dont worry kevin, we live in cali. we have seen plenty of FWD cars try it.
They put McDonalds trays under the rear wheels and set the parking brake. We lost an Autocross venue because some kids went out to the site at noght and did this. The venue was a police facility and the police felt it would be better if we found another site. One of the FWD cars participating had its numbers from the Autocross on its side still according to the police.

Moneyguy1 06-20-2006 04:32 PM

Drifting in a 911 or variant is akin to a rollerskate with a five pound hammer tied to it (head to the rear) going in a circle, tied to a rope and being swung. Not a stable situation.

Aurel 06-20-2006 05:15 PM

Here`s some 911 drifting for ya. Enjoy !

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2598710327146234595&q=911+drifting

Aurel


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