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You've pssd it up against the wall
After browsing through a post by tabs on 911 & the corresponding replies I viewed a link that he posted:
http://www.olivetreeviews.org/topics/movies/attack.html Watching this again after all this time really hit a button. I felt the strongest sense of sympathy towards those in the US & felt like I'd support my country's involvement in any response to those acts. Pretty much how most around the world would have felt after the event. At that time you had most of the world with you. I believe the domestic equivalent is called political capital. And to be frank, your govt has pssd it up against a wall in Iraq. It's a real pity because so much could have been achieved & I'm pretty sure it will go down as a monumental loss of opportunity that will (hopefully) not come again. My thoughts regarding the american govt now mostly revolve around the fact that they can't be trusted & are dangerously incompetent. If my situation is 'normal' or even close to it, that's a pretty large swing in sentiment. Nice link tabs.
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If I recall correctly, your country is involved in it too.
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Yes it is. Every poll done since the initial posting announcement has revealed a majority of our citizens do not want our troops there. The post is not meant to be a slap for those that are over there. Just thought I'd comment on the ebb and flow of goodwill.
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Any democracy at war is difficult politically. Things were very clear during the WW's and even the Cold War. Terrorism and preemption attacks leave every disconnected citizen a strategic policy critic. This is even manifest in strategic bureaucracies. Mass media knows how to make money over this embedded tension.
bottom line is either you feel US soil is a battlefield or you don't.
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I believe the vision of removing Hussein, the Talaban and hopefully Al Cada (sp. ?) and attempting to establish a democracy in the middle east was a good thing. Who knows? Maybe in the end it will prove worthwhile. And I support the idea of trying to establish a buffer by fighting it there in its own back yard. But, I'm really mad and embarrassed in the way it has been handled and excecuted. If Bush & Rumsfeld would have let the generals prepare it and fight it, it would have been over (probably) by now - and probably successful. I was in the Army during the Vietnam era, and I just hate it that politicians screw up everything.
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Instead of defeating the terrorists - you have chosen to incite them. Instead of taking the high road - you have chosen the low road. Instead of taking out the problem by stealth (special forces etc) you have chosen to make martyrs out of people who would otherwise have been ignored and have had no significant impact on their communities. According to a number of sources (Economist etc.) there are today approximately 20 times (estimated) the number of militant jihadists that there were before 9.11. Afghanistan is a mess and getting messier. Iraq is a mess and getting messier. Islamic extremism is a blight on humanity - of that there is no doubt. But surely there were better ways to deal with this than the current occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan - for which there is no end in sight. Imagine spending the same amount of money of schools and hospitals and security etc and on actually trying to win the hearts and minds of the people. How difficult would that be? Remember how you won the hearts and minds of Europeans after WW2 - with nylon stockings, bubble gum, cigarettes and beer. It's that simple really....well actually it isn't any longer - you have pissed that opportunity away.
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Going into Afghanistan was the correct thing to do. We had to respond to 9/11 to give confidence to ourselves and the rest of the world that we will not sit back idly after being attacked.
Going into Iraq increasingly appears to be a personal vendetta on the parts of the administration. Yes, there may be an axis of evil, but much of its current rise is due to our behavior inside Iraq. Afghanistan is a mess because interest in the country has shifted toward a need to stabilize and Democratize Iraq, mostly for its oil reserves and to establish a puppet state in the Middle East. A person who blames the catastrophic results of this ill-founded war on the media, is only seeking an excuse against established facts about how entirely wrong this war is. The media aren't the only ones who know how ridiculous the U.S. administration has behaved since 9/11, the American people know. One only has to look at Bush's poll ratings. He's in the thirtieth-percentile. As was said earlier, the Fundamentalist terrorists have made this a worldwide fight, which is true. But Iraq was never the place to meet that fight head on.
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I concur...pssed it away.
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