I'd say you are at odds with nearly 90% of all Christians on that one.

All of these replies are the perfect example of "my interpretation is the right one" school of thought that permeates religion. And, would you stop this "end of world" stuff. Sheer BS. When? No I really mean when? Can't tell me? Then it's just your opinion, not some god's will. Ever notice how just some people “know” god's will and they all seem to have different versions, even within the same group or church? So which one of these fairytale versions should you choose?
Look at their answers to all difficult questions; they all come back to “man does not know the mind of god” or “stop trying to make god in your image”. How about, “we don’t have a clue, but we’re really good at making it up as we go along”.

Try some logic and knowledge, it works miracles!

I bet it's higher than that :D


I'll stand by my statements as truth.


KT

No, I will not. NEVER.



Sounds like the evolutionist's punch line.:p


KT

Fair enough KT, if you think you should spread your fairytales. Then I think that I should respond by showing all the holes and untruths in these types of posts. After all, I believe a have a sacred duty to spread enlightenment and knowledge to all the repressed by religion people of the world.

Peoples religions are not fairytales. Your statement is an insult to religious people and shows a total lack of respect for others. It is one thing to make an argument that there may or may not be a god, but like calling a black guy a ni..gr is an insult and a lack of respect for that person, the same goes for issuing insulting statements about religion. Religion is a very serious subject for most people and needs to be respected.

Again, as to evolution, since Catholics happen to believe in evolution, why do you make statements that they do not? Many Christians believe in evolution and see no conflict with their religion, at least the majority that understand their religion. You seem to be just trying to stir the pot and make trouble where there is none. Why else the continual spewing of insults about religious people? Maybe you have some problems of your own to resolve?

Correction, in the catholic faith it is called Limbo. Purgatory is for a small time sinner, Hell is for the big time sinner and Limbo is for people, like a baby who cannot sin and die unbaptized.

Yeah, or else they'll start rioting, and burning stuff, you know?

And whom, might I ask, assigned you to this "duty"?
I'm pretty sure I already know...;)


KT:D

What makes you think the religion represses people? To the contrary, religion enlightens and enriches many peoples lives.

You seem to be in need of conversion, son.

Snowman wrote:
Peoples religions are not fairytales. Your statement is an insult to religious people and shows a total lack of respect for others. It is one thing to make an argument that there may or may not be a god, but like calling a black guy a ni..gr is an insult and a lack of respect for that person, the same goes for issuing insulting statements about religion. Religion is a very serious subject for most people and needs to be respected.
Again, as to evolution, since Catholics happen to believe in evolution, why do you make statements that they do not? Many Christians believe in evolution and see no conflict with their religion, at least the majority that understand their religion. You seem to be just trying to stir the pot and make trouble where there is none. Why else the continual spewing of insults about religious people? Maybe you have some problems of your own to resolve?




Let me make myself perfectly clear. I do not want to insult anybody. If you are insulted because I do not accept your beliefs than that’s your own doing; so be it. I was taught to shoot and talk straight. This thread is full of people who want to show science is wrong and label the proponents as evil, god bashing, liberal, doomed to hell, etc. Why is that not considered insulting?
I have been accused of god bashing, just because I used one of the believer’s statements which declares he has a duty to inflict this nonsense on the rest of us, with the substitution of Christian with non-believer. This is insulting to you? Why would you not think the original statement insulting to me? If you want to believe something fine. If you want to believe something and promote it in a public forum, then I too have that ability. I do not want myths, fairytales, stories, urban legends, etc. (any nonsense based on non-testable, non-repeatable, non-peer reviewed) given out and spoken about as fact. All you would need to do is label these statements as what they really are, (i.e. opinions, personal interpretations and stories) and I would not have anything to say. After all, I love a good story. But if you (the religious collective) want to present these as facts, truth and proof; then I am insulted. You have not earned my respect.
If the subject was not religion (or politics) and someone was making statements about how he just knew and believed the moon was made of cheese, how much respect (not tolerance) would you give to his opinion? You have my tolerance. After all I’m on a sacred mission to spread the truth and to open people’s eyes to the dark oppression of religion. How and why would you expect me to stop?

Again, we have the example of:
Snowman wrote:
“Many Christians believe in evolution and see no conflict with their religion, at least the majority that understand (sic) their religion.”

I love this tripe; it’s as common as dirt. Here we have the same, egotistic “I am right, they are wrong” opinion that religion is full of. Every religious person I have ever met has the same “my interpretation is correct, yours is wrong” position. Every one of them. They can all point out that the ones who are bigoted, hate filled, gay bashing, doctor killing, anti –intellectual, Moslem haters, etc. etc. are all the misguided ones, not at all like the “correct” true believers.



PS. I have never made the statement that the official stance of the Catholic Church is not to accept evolution. And thanks for the attempt at psychology. I am at peace with the universe, and have no unresolved problems; I just don’t suffer fools gladly.

My mission to clear the muddled heads of the religious came from god. I thought you knew that stuff already!

sorry but no
it may enrich some
but most of them are useless like jim and tammy fay
far more people just are robbed by the church/religions
to support the few who refuse to do usefull work

and lets not forget the ones who do evil in the name of their belifes
from the book burners to the terrorests
they all belive a god is on their side

and enlightenment comes only when
a person rejects false gods
and their followers and stupid rules

Harsh, but true.


KT

Which god?



KT

Why, the one true god, of course!

My statement:


If you are going to quote or paraphrase me, I would appreciate if you do it truthfully. Let's compare our two statements word by phrase by phrase so that I'm not mis-quoted again.

I said...
You said...
You correctly identified me as a believer, and then promptly state that you never met a believer who didn't say that things that you said. Well you said them, not me. I don't need you to put garbage in my mouth. So if you want to talk about truth -- start with an honest quote.

BTW, I'm sure that if I were to ask you if all athiests are
and I could add to the list church burners and anti-semites -- I suggest that you would point out that those statements didn't apply to true logically minded athiests such as yourself. If you dis-agree with my suggestion, I'd be shocked.

Why should a believer's statements to that effect carry any less credence then a similar statement made by an Athiest?

I said...
You said...
My word: available
your word: inflict

The last time that I checked, participation on this thread and this forum is strictly voluntary. You are welcome not to participate in this discussion if it so offends you.

My words: people who want to learn about it (God's Word)
Your words: the rest of us.

Incorrect statements were made and questions asked about what Christians believe in regards to Creation and Evolution. As a Christian, I thought that I'd share what many actual Christians believe, as opposed to what non-Christians believe Christians believe. In my book this is telling the truth.

I understand that you feel the duty to stand up for your beliefs. So do I. If you're going make sweeping generalizations about people who you obviously know very little about (such as myself), the least that I can do is point out where I differ from your generalization.

Oh yeah, like Mao, Stalin and Hitler. Three of the most efficient killers of all time. Oh, but wait --

They were all avowed athiests.

oops!
:rolleyes:

so you're saying the ones who kill in the name of religion aren't efficient? :p

and are you so sure about Hitler?

http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/quotes_hitler.html