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nostatic 08-28-2006 06:34 PM

the ultimate entertaining "practical" car
 
OK, the Subie will likely be gone and I'll be in a rental car. I see the ortho guy Thursday and hopefully will get some idea on how long/bad rehab will be for the left knee/foot.

So I have two scenarios: in one, my leg will heal back close to normal in a reasonable amount of time, and I can drive whatever. In the other, my leg will be in rehab for a long time (or never quite be right).

So a couple of options I'm thinking. At the top end of the money scale, an Audi A3 with DSG. A tad under $30K. That's really the most I'd want to finance. Just below that would be a GTi with DSG. Then a Mini Cooper S with Agitronic. Other autos are kinda sketchy....if I'm stuck with an auto i need something to entertain me. The DSG is actually a manual trans. The MCSa has a torque converter.

The Mazdaspeed3 wagon looks to be cool, and Volvo has a new hatchback coming in Sept that harkens back to the 1800.

All those would be $20K+ with resulting car payments, etc.

Another possibility that this board got me thinking about was an E30 with an auto trans. They seem cheap to buy but I worry about keeping them running.

I'm assuming that I need an auto for at least one month, and probably more like two. I can rent, but at some point it would be cheaper to buy a car (especially if I can find a used one cheap). If long term I can't drive a stick, then all bets are off as the 911 would have to go and I'd need to find a tiptronic track car. But i'll cross that bridge when/if I come to it.

pwd72s 08-28-2006 06:38 PM

Rental? If that, try a variety...maybe a Mustang ragtop or something...

Z-man 08-28-2006 06:42 PM

A Volvo's on your list?!? Geez - are you some kinda metrosexual or somethin'??? :eek:

My vote's for the GTi with DSG. Nearly the same as the Audi A3 for less $$.

-Z.

speeder 08-28-2006 06:48 PM

You can buy a decent E30 BMW off of craigslist for really cheap; $1500 buys a pretty good one and $800 for a beater. Keeping them running is not an issue if they are decent mechanically to start with, and you know how to check out a car.

You can always dump it for what you paid for it or close, this is called driving on the cheap and I've been doing it for years. Good temporary solution if nothing else.

Jared at Pelican Parts 08-28-2006 06:49 PM

E30 autos are dogs. Not a real reliable tranny either.

nostatic 08-28-2006 06:55 PM

Which BMW autos aren't dogs? Other than M3 SMG. I can have TRE do a PPI. If I can find a decent cheap one that seems smarter than renting for one or two months ($600/mo give or take to rent).

Jared at Pelican Parts 08-28-2006 06:59 PM

Try to find an 325i at the very least. Make sure timing belt has been changed.

nostatic 08-28-2006 07:02 PM

hmm...how about assuing someone else's lease?

Jims5543 08-28-2006 07:54 PM

Buy an old POS Auto Honda or Toyota then dump it when you can clutch again. THEN find a fun car.

BeauBlues 08-28-2006 09:21 PM

Get the GTI, my girlfriend just got one and its a blast. It is also equipped with the DSG transmission. I have driven the Mini S with the agitronic trans and it changes gears soooo slowly. The GTI on the other hand is lightning fast through the gears and it handles very well. Also it is very comfy and roomy. It gets my approval.

beepbeep 08-29-2006 12:20 AM

Old E30 318is. cheap and fun!

dd74 08-29-2006 12:38 AM

I'd first see what the ortho says about your healing before thinking about a car. But that's just me: I'm never in a hurry to come up with a plan to part ways with $20-$30K.

With that said, have you read the pre-reviews about the MazdaSpeed3. One blurb said, expect "massive torque steer." Plus, I'm not certain from what I've read that the Mazdaspeed3 will be offered in an auto.

Seahawk 08-29-2006 03:42 AM

My wife is on a long term assignment in DC, which came with a rental car. Two words:

Pontiac Vibe.

Catch the wave:)

deathpunk dan 08-29-2006 03:59 AM

GTI with DSG hands down more fun than the piggish A3.

Jim Richards 08-29-2006 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Z-man
A Volvo's on your list?!? Geez - are you some kinda metrosexual or somethin'??? :eek:

My vote's for the GTi with DSG. Nearly the same as the Audi A3 for less $$.

-Z.

+1, on both counts! :D

vash 08-29-2006 06:32 AM

i mangled my leg in a motorbike lesson...i mean...crash. my right foot is numb permanently in certian spots, but other than that, i can drive whatever. you will be fine. having said that, an auto is great in a traffic jam, and i bet you get a few of those down south.

i love driving fun, but i think you should give all the fun duties to the 911, and lean on the more practical side with the other car. what about a subaru legacy wagon with paddle shift on the wheel? there is a guy kicking butt with one at our AX's, while his 911 is under the knife.

}{arlequin 08-29-2006 07:54 AM

i thought you already had an audi and hence learned your lessons... unless you'll dump it before the warranty runs out again ;)

kach22i 08-29-2006 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Seahawk
My wife is on a long term assignment in DC, which came with a rental car. Two words:

Pontiac Vibe.

Catch the wave:)

Seriously?

http://www.cars.com/features/mvp/pon...n_overview.jpg
http://www.cars.com/carsapp/boston/?srv=parser&act=display&tf=/features/mvp/pontiac/vibe/vibe_overview.tmpl
Quote:

Our handy Manufacturer Warranty Comparison shows that Toyota offers an additional two years of powertrain coverage, five years and 50,000 miles, where Pontiac is good for one more year of corrosion protection, at six years. But Pontiac has a 100,000-mile limit on this coverage, where Toyota’s is unlimited.
I told my wife to look at this car when replacing the Focus.

Good choice?

thrown_hammer 08-29-2006 08:36 AM

Dodge Magnum SRT/8.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1156869371.jpg

Seahawk 08-29-2006 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kach22i
Seriously?

I told my wife to look at this car when replacing the Focus.

Good choice?

Her quote was, "We can cross this one off the list"....

I really don't mind the looks, but I have not driven it. I'll give it a whirl this week and report back. My wife prefers trucks!:eek:

Jared at Pelican Parts 08-29-2006 10:33 AM

I've been looking at mid 90's Subaru wagons as a daily driver. Not sure how they are with an auto though

tc-sacto 08-29-2006 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim Cesiro
Buy an old POS Auto Honda or Toyota then dump it when you can clutch again. THEN find a fun car.
+1
Good idea! :)

pwd72s 08-29-2006 11:21 AM

Regardless of thedaily car chosen...it's obvious you won't be driving the P-car for a spell. If you haven't already done so, hook up one of the auto shut off battery chargers.

serge944 08-29-2006 11:30 AM

If you only need a car for a few months while you recover, just buy some old e30 325i/is. 2-3k will land you in a really nice one. You can turn around and sell it without losing any money too. It only makes sense to lease a new car, in my mind, if you plan on driving the car for a while after you're able to drive manual. Do you want to do that?

As far as the GTI DSG goes, it is a good transmission and shifts quite quickly. My friend has one and it is fairly quick and fun to drive. My only gripes are 1. FWD and 2. one of the worst sounding stock exhausts I've ever heard.

nostatic 08-29-2006 11:45 AM

well, I found a 2004 325ic, fully loaded w/SMG. I can take over the remaining year of the lease for about $400/mo. That's (hopefully) longer than I need to rehab, but it might be an entertaining car to keep around for awhile. I don't think I want to go on the hook for a full lease or purchase right now, unless it was a cheap used car.

So at this point looking for a decent auto e30 and pondering assuming a lease with less than 12 months left.

Mark Wilson 08-29-2006 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic
well, I found a 2004 325ic, fully loaded w/SMG. I can take over the remaining year of the lease for about $400/mo.
Careful to read the fine print in the lease. Document any dings, scratches and wear and get signoff from original lessor. Some lease companies will fuch you over for what you and I call normal wear items when you turn the car back in. Make sure there's no balloon at the end either.

kaisen 08-29-2006 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic
well, I found a 2004 325ic, fully loaded w/SMG. I can take over the remaining year of the lease for about $400/mo.
What lender is the lease through? BMW Financial? Chase? US Bank?

Be very careful to read all of the fine print. There may be a disposition/termination fee. Make sure you won't have more mileage than the contract allows as that can get expensive (at LEAST $.20/mile).

As long as you know what you are getting into, assuming a lease can be a great deal.

Good luck

Tim Hancock 08-29-2006 02:02 PM

You can buy E36 BMW 3 series (92-98) for 5k all day long. With performance shocks/springs, they are fun cars. I have 268,000 miles on my '92 325i and it still runs/drives perfect. They have timing chains instead of belts like the "god awful to work on" Audis. I am highly impressed with the build quality of the E36 BMW's. The car burns little oil and still feels solid. I get nearly 30 mpg with mine and I intend to "daily drive" it for many more miles.

Seems like someone just came out with a book on these cars too!

fastpat 08-29-2006 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic
Which BMW autos aren't dogs? Other than M3 SMG. I can have TRE do a PPI. If I can find a decent cheap one that seems smarter than renting for one or two months ($600/mo give or take to rent).
Any with the five speed auto will be significantly more fun than the older four speed auto models.

But, that also means something from the late '90's. I'm not sure when the five speed automatics were introduced, but seems like it was with the late E36's or with the E46 3-series.

Big Ed 08-29-2006 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic
well, I found a 2004 325ic, fully loaded w/SMG. I can take over the remaining year of the lease for about $400/mo. .
I thought the SMG was a M-series only option.

nostatic 08-29-2006 03:09 PM

nope, for 2004 SMG was an option on all rear wheel drive cars. It seems that the SMG is not exactly the same as the one in the M cars though. I'll have to drive it to see if it sucks...word on the net is you either love it or hate it.

Eric Coffey 08-29-2006 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic
...It seems that the SMG is not exactly the same as the one in the M cars though. I'll have to drive it to see if it sucks...word on the net is you either love it or hate it.
Why not an M car then? It shouldn't be too hard to find a nice`02+ SMG M3.

If not an M car, then I might look at `02+ Boxster S tiptronics.

There aren't a lot of either car in nice condition under $30k, but they are definitely out there. Good luck!

SmileWavy

epbrown 08-29-2006 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nostatic
nope, for 2004 SMG was an option on all rear wheel drive cars. It seems that the SMG is not exactly the same as the one in the M cars though. I'll have to drive it to see if it sucks...word on the net is you either love it or hate it.
Yes, the SMG in the non-M cars is technically SSG, and made some Italian company. Apparently the SSG is more in character with an automatic, but some owners consider it the best of both worlds - it's smoother than an SMG but does give you the control of a manual in that it will hold a gear until you shift it, all the way to redline; most paddle-shift schemes don't.

I've considered that trans for my next Z4 for a more prosaic reason - I want more foot room for my big feet!


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