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M.D. Holloway 09-01-2006 12:29 PM

Talked to a few profs at UNT today. We do have an Apple Store. The only glitch (and it is a very small one) is that I will need to down load Java - I need that for the net courses. It was easy with the my Dell albeit took 27 minutes! I suspect that I will be a non issue with the fruitbook.

Seahawk 09-01-2006 01:28 PM

I know I'm going to get stoned with apples on this, but we just bought an HP for my daugther at Best Buy...great deal.

Key was that we had all the sw and I got a great mil discount.

Best is the enemy of good enough.

Ernesto DOES suck, btw. Pic to follow. The horror;)

stomachmonkey 09-01-2006 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
Talked to a few profs at UNT today. We do have an Apple Store. The only glitch (and it is a very small one) is that I will need to down load Java - I need that for the net courses. It was easy with the my Dell albeit took 27 minutes! I suspect that I will be a non issue with the fruitbook.
Java runtime? It's already on the box along with Apache, PHP, SQL etc.. etc...

http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/java/

M.D. Holloway 01-02-2007 08:18 AM

Well, I am still in the market for one. Silly question, I do alot with PowerPoint, Word and Excel. Will the MacBook be cool with all these? Do I need to buy the MS Office to run them?

stevepaa 01-02-2007 08:26 AM

Yes, and did you know about the refurbs that are about 1/3 off and have the same warranty as new?

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=D8593B5A&nclm=CertifiedMac

Well it's gone now. but check later.


Or if you go to an Apple store they may have some Christmas returns that they discount. People return Macbooks to upgrade.

craigster59 01-02-2007 08:32 AM

I bought Macbooks for me and the Wife for Christmas. A 1000 times better than PC, we couldn't be happier. Bought refurbished at around $850 each. Just looked at the above link. We have the $899 Macbook. It's an extremely fast machine, after researching at a few mac sites went with the regular as opposed to the Pro since there wasn't much difference to justify the added cost.

jyl 01-02-2007 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
Well, I am still in the market for one. Silly question, I do alot with PowerPoint, Word and Excel. Will the MacBook be cool with all these? Do I need to buy the MS Office to run them?
You need MSFT's Office X.

Load up the MacBook w/ 2GB RAM, buy from the place Bryan mentioned or I've had good luck w/ www.memoryx.net

Buy a refurbished MacBook if you can, saves money, assuming you don't want some unusual configuration.

Get AppleCare, it's worth it on a laptop.

If you have problems, remember Apple services its machines at the Genius Bar of your local Apple Store - make appointment and bring it in, no need to sit on hold to India for hours.

One thing, you might consider waiting until MacWorld (in about a week) to see if Apple goes to 802.11n. If so, would be better to get a MacBook w/ "n".

Porsche_monkey 01-02-2007 09:00 AM

We ahve a large number of Toshiba's in my office. We have never had a failure, they appear to be bulletproof.

My daughter found the same thing at University. Dell, Acer, Sony, etc all had problems, the Toshiba's just keep on working.

stomachmonkey 01-02-2007 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LubeMaster77
Well, I am still in the market for one. Silly question, I do alot with PowerPoint, Word and Excel. Will the MacBook be cool with all these? Do I need to buy the MS Office to run them?
People seem to forget that Microsoft was in the business of writing software for the Apple before it got into Operating Systems.

As for Office on the Mac there was one version that was essentially a port of the PC product and honestly it sucked.

When OSX came along Office on the Mac got a complete rebuild from the ground up and some say that it runs better under OSX than it does under XP.

If you don't want to foot the bill for it up front then go for Openoffice or Staroffice, open source comapatible versions of Word, Excell and Powerpoint.

If your company has a site license for it just ask your IT guy to get you the installer and use your corporate serial number.

Student/Teacher price om Office is $149.95, price good from the Apple store till Jan. 16

lendaddy 01-02-2007 09:06 AM

"This one very good, has Toshiba guts....you buy."

:D

Porsche_monkey 01-02-2007 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
"This one very good, has Toshiba guts....you buy."

:D

Me buy, me like lots much.

Joeaksa 01-02-2007 09:31 AM

Dell or IBM laptops.... hard to beat either of them. If you want to "be different" then buy a Chevy.

Dottore 01-02-2007 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stomachmonkey
When OSX came along Office on the Mac got a complete rebuild from the ground up and some say that it runs better under OSX than it does under XP.


Go for the Mac. "Once you go Mac you'll never go back".

We run Office on ours and it runs flawlessly - better than on our PC's.

dad911 01-02-2007 07:14 PM

I spent the last two days trying to repair my virus infected pc. I'm going back to mac for my next computer.

jyl 01-02-2007 08:45 PM

One more thing, some of the early MacBooks had a random shutoff problem, was eventually solved w/ a firmware upgrade, mine had this. Seems to run just fine post the firmware upgrade, but might do a bit of research to see which serial number ranges had the problem and make sure you get a later one. If you buy a new one, will be okay, if you buy a refurb one, probably okay, if you buy a private party used one, check it out.

Seems likely that Apple will introduce a smaller notebook w/ a 12" screen soon, if you are looking for that size might wait a bit. My opinion is if you want a super-small "subnote", then IBM/Lenovo (X60), Sony (Vaio), and some other Japanese brands make the best hardware and I'd tolerate Windows to get the 3 lb weight and smaller-than-magazine size.

I have Thinkpad X60 for work and love it's 5+ hour battery life, had Thinkpad T60 and it was an excellent and powerful machine, and use at home an iMac (old PowerPC version) and a MacBook. Very happy w/ all these machines, but would be all-Apple if I could.

Finally, I would think in engineering there are some apps that are Windows-only, so may as well get familiar with Parallels (lets you toggle between Window and Mac OS on your MacBook, w/o rebooting as Apple's Boot Camp requires).

Oh, finally for real this time, I just set up a multi-monitor home office using the X60 with VT Book accessory graphics card to drive three screens - Thinkpad internal LCD, plus two 19" LCD monitors. Multiple monitors is really a sweet thing, so you might want to check if MacBook supports that, if you're inclined to geekdom.

Drew001 01-02-2007 10:01 PM

If you are thinking about a Mac (or any other Apple product) - wait one week.

MacWorld, which is Apple's biggest event of the year, is beginning next Tuesday.
Steve Jobs is holding a two hour keynote presentation and it is always fun to watch.

http://homepage.mac.com/drew1/.Pictures/welcome2007.jpg

skipdup 01-03-2007 06:30 AM

Mike- Sent you a PM.

- Skip

stomachmonkey 01-03-2007 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jyl

Finally, I would think in engineering there are some apps that are Windows-only, so may as well get familiar with Parallels (lets you toggle between Window and Mac OS on your MacBook, w/o rebooting as Apple's Boot Camp requires).


VM Ware just released thier beta. Free download. Works really well. They have a ton of preconfigured Virtual Machines that you can download.

quaz 01-03-2007 07:06 AM

Another vote for Macs here. I switched all my family to macs and my support calls have gone down to 1-2 a year vs. 1-2 a week. I love my new macbook, but Drew is right, wait a week and see what Apple introduces. They may not touch the notebooks, but if they do you can usually get a really good deal on the previous generation on the specials page.


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