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 110 degrees 110 degrees of knee movement is what you need to get up off a toilet seat. Per my orthopedic doc. So there ya go... | 
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 so, you got it or not?  :p | 
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 He said, "movement", he, he... | 
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 Shux.. I thought this would be a complaint about the weather in LV or Phoenix... | 
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 people with longer lower legs require more movement..... | 
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 In some countries you have to actally squat on your ankles to use the facilities. I'd imagine that would require more like 180degree's of movement | 
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 so why do you get the chills sometimes when you pee? | 
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 I don't get chills when you pee. What are you talking about? | 
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 That's because your not holding your ankles. Rika | 
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 I don't drop the soap. | 
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 So your sitting on the toilet ,and your urine stream will not reach the shower...yep ..that would give me chill's. That is low pressure..headstud's going or gone. Rika | 
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 As one who has gone through extensive physical therapy to regain movement in the knee, I knew what this thread was about before reading it! | 
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 I've spent the last day trying to straighten my leg out so I can put an immobilizing brace on. The ortho guy said it is a lot easier to get movement back starting from a straight leg rather than trying to straighten a bent one. I'm almost there...but I've always had really tight hamstrings so straightening my leg when it was healthy was a challenge... And I can pee from the toilet to the shower no problem (prostate is fine). I just choose not to do so. | 
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 You need a higher toilet, slightly tilted toward the front. That way one could almost administer a dump with a straight line from ankle to hip. | 
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 a *****'n train wrex I am | 
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 Old Naval Aviator joke. | 
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 As one who spent many months recovering from a very bad break to my tibia and fibia (foot as well), I sympathise with the knee issue...nothing hurt more than getting movement back to the knee after being immobilized for a time. But, for the love of pete, buck up:D | 
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 I had ACL recon in '00, and re-injured it again 3 months ago.  I fell your pain - literally. | 
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 So why you sittin' down?  Real men go standing up.  Even #2. | 
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 My Boy George would ***** while he was walking... | 
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 Did you mean "talking"? Just looking for clarification...... | 
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 Not if your tall. | 
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 My pee is gold. | 
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 "My pee is gold".... Your real name is Midas? | 
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 For damned sure, recovery from a painful injury is never fun.  Know what?  Crazy at it may seem, all here are happy that you are recovering.  Your compaining tells me you're making progress. :) | 
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 Oh, I'm not complaining much where's my vicodin? | 
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 Hey, at least you can pee from the toilet to the shower... Man, those jokes hurt. 40 years ago, I could pee up to a rain gutter.  Now, I worry about getting my shoes wet. :( | 
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