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svonkampen 09-11-2006 12:19 PM

Anyone catch.."The Path To 911" on ABC last night?
 
Anyone catch.."The Path To 911" on ABC last night?

I thought it was excellent.

thoughts?



SvK

lendaddy 09-11-2006 12:48 PM

I'll rent it when it goes DVD. I guess Clintons Lawyers couldn't get it yanked then?

widebody911 09-11-2006 01:03 PM

Missed it, but the "American Dad" episode had some pretty good digs at liberals and the UN.

techweenie 09-11-2006 01:06 PM

I didn't see the mockumentary on ABC, but CBS had an actual documentary of a fire station on 9/11. It was excellent.

cegerer 09-11-2006 01:15 PM

Even with the last-minute censureship, it clearly showed the Clinton-administration's approach to the war on terrorism. In fact, it's pretty much identical to what the Democrat party seems to want to do today. I think anyone considering voting Democrat this year, should watch it. That's not a criticism. It's simply a good way to see how that particular approach worked over the course of 7 years.

Nathans_Dad 09-11-2006 01:21 PM

Wow, I'm shocked that Tech chose not to watch the ABC film. Guess "Fahrenheit 911" is must view material though...

techweenie 09-11-2006 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cegerer
Even with the last-minute censureship, it clearly showed the Clinton-administration's approach to the war on terrorism. In fact, it's pretty much identical to what the Democrat party seems to want to do today. I think anyone considering voting Democrat this year, should watch it. That's not a criticism. It's simply a good way to see how that particular approach worked over the course of 7 years.
Yes, in his last weeks here, Mul suggested that Clinton trying to kill Osama was partly responsible for 9/11.

Appeasement never works with zealots like Osama and al-Zawahiri.

lendaddy 09-11-2006 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
Mul suggested that Clinton trying to kill Osama was partly responsible for 9/11.

You're not still pushing that are you? I thought I cleared that up for you, no?

lendaddy 09-11-2006 01:34 PM

http://www.ducret.com/images/politic...-LOWER-LIP.gif
"I was obsessed with Osama, I was obsessed more than anybody"

:rolleyes: What a tool.

techweenie 09-11-2006 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
You're not still pushing that are you? I thought I cleared that up for you, no?
You have yet to show any clarity. What on earth are you referring to? Are you channeling Mul now?

lendaddy 09-11-2006 01:40 PM

The CIA's former Bin Laden desk chief revealed Thursday night that Clinton administration lawyers warned counterterrorism agents that Osama bin Laden had to be kept as comfortable as possible if they captured him during planned raids into Afghanistan.

"The lawyers were more concerned with bin Laden`s safety and his comfort than they were with the officers charged with capturing him," former Bin Laden desk chief Michael Scheuer told MSNBC's "Hardball.

"We had to build an ergonomically designed chair to put him in, [for] special comfort in terms of how he was shackled into the chair," Scheuer explained. "They even worried about what kind of tape to gag him with so it wouldn`t irritate his beard."

"The lawyers are the bane of the intelligence community," the former CIA man lamented.

Concerns like that, as well as foot dragging by the White House, resulted in one missed opportunity after another to get the al Qaida terror mastermind, Scheuer said.

"We had at least eight to 10 chances to capture or kill Osama bin Laden in 1998 and 1999. And the government on all occasions decided that the information was not good enough to act," he claimed.

Although sharply critical of President Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq , the CIA counterterrorism specialist put the blame for bin Laden's escape firmly on Mr. Clinton.

"In terms of which administration had more chances, Mr. Clinton`s administration had far more chances to kill Osama bin Laden than Mr. Bush has until this day," Scheuer said.

dd74 09-11-2006 01:41 PM

Saw it briefly - like five minutes. The closeup shots got me claustrophobic, and the dialogue was fairly bland. I switched channels to the local news to see what the weather was going to be today.

Hugh R 09-11-2006 03:15 PM

I worked on it, and it is pretty similar to what we originally shot. The disclaimers were new, and a Madeline Albright scene was deleted. Lots of changes in the edit room from what was originally shot. I do know for a fact, that the documentation used to support the "Dramatization" was very, very well researched. Sure they combined different timelines and individual events, like putting Sandy Burger and George Tenant in the same room together on a cell phone call to the CIA hit men, when in fact they were on speaker phones in their own offices. And numerous times these types of conversations were docuemented to have existed. But it doesn't change the outcome, but for Burger to say "That scene is a total fabrication, I was never in George Tenant's office on a cell phone call to CIA operatives" and say its a total fabrication is nothing but misdirection.

techweenie 09-11-2006 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
The CIA's former Bin Laden desk chief revealed Thursday night that Clinton administration lawyers warned counterterrorism agents that Osama bin Laden had to be kept as comfortable as possible if they captured him during planned raids into Afghanistan.

"The lawyers were more concerned with bin Laden`s safety and his comfort than they were with the officers charged with capturing him," former Bin Laden desk chief Michael Scheuer told MSNBC's "Hardball.

"We had to build an ergonomically designed chair to put him in, [for] special comfort in terms of how he was shackled into the chair," Scheuer explained. "They even worried about what kind of tape to gag him with so it wouldn`t irritate his beard."

"The lawyers are the bane of the intelligence community," the former CIA man lamented.

Concerns like that, as well as foot dragging by the White House, resulted in one missed opportunity after another to get the al Qaida terror mastermind, Scheuer said.

"We had at least eight to 10 chances to capture or kill Osama bin Laden in 1998 and 1999. And the government on all occasions decided that the information was not good enough to act," he claimed.

Although sharply critical of President Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq , the CIA counterterrorism specialist put the blame for bin Laden's escape firmly on Mr. Clinton.

"In terms of which administration had more chances, Mr. Clinton`s administration had far more chances to kill Osama bin Laden than Mr. Bush has until this day," Scheuer said.

LOL.

Very credible. And the cruise missiles we dropped on the camp he was supposed to be in -- they were special ergonomic missiles, I suppose?

Rick Lee 09-11-2006 06:01 PM

Does anyone think killing UBL in 1998 would have prevented the 9/11 attacks? The 9/11 plot was well under way by then. One of the hijackers had been in flight school since 1996!!!!!

Halm 09-11-2006 06:30 PM

This show was consistent with New York Times Pulitzer Prize winner Steve Coll’s account leading up to 9/11. It did not go far enough back to cover how Carter and Regan had a part in this tragedy nor did it mention George the first. All in all, no one person, party or ideology is singularly responsible for this. It is an accumulation of stupid, focus group oriented decisions over a 25 year period by politicians.

When are folks on both sides of the isle going to open their eyes and start working for th common good and stop this partisan BS???

Moneyguy1 09-11-2006 06:33 PM

Halm

Don't hold your breath.

Halm 09-11-2006 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Halm

Don't hold your breath.

I know, please excuse me. It was the Pollyanna moment induced by a glass of wine.

Rodeo 09-11-2006 07:00 PM

Why is it that because I think the president is doing a lousy job I'm a "partisan?"

Seriously, what makes you write me off with some label? Like i'm some robot that toes some party line. Is it because I have an opinion and you don't?

Rick Lee 09-11-2006 07:06 PM

Yeah Rodeo, you've been such an independent thinker in previous posts.


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