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air-cool-me 09-14-2006 01:16 PM

Thermal depolymerization
 
Is it just a cool buzz word?

Is this the solution to the "oil problem"

What do you think?



http://www.mindfully.org/Energy/2003/Anything-Into-Oil1may03.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_depolymerization

http://www.discover.com/issues/jul-04/features/anything-into-oil/

dhoward 09-14-2006 01:18 PM

I thought that's what happens when you put your leisure suit in the dryer...

air-cool-me 09-14-2006 02:56 PM

almost

Aurel 09-14-2006 03:11 PM

Sure, a machine can turn any type of garbage into oil. Great.
But I bet you it takes 2-3 gallons of oil in energy to produce 1 gallon of garbage oil. What`s the point? The 350 hp grinder they need uses energy...Now, If they can run the whole process out of the grid with a generator that uses the oil they makes and still have some oil to sell afterwards, I say they got something.

Aurel

red-beard 09-14-2006 03:39 PM

If the excess power produced and the cost of the equipment match reasonably well with commercial power, then sure, why not.

kach22i 09-15-2006 01:00 AM

Re: Thermal depolymerization
 
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Originally posted by air-cool-me


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_depolymerization
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Many agricultural and animal wastes could be processed, but many of these are already used as fertilizer, animal feed, and, in some cases, as feedstocks for paper mills or as boiler fuel.
Turkey oil?

Waste already has value and uses, good point - we need more garbage!

Is anyone else thinking "Back to the Future III"?

air-cool-me 09-15-2006 11:27 AM

Quote:

But I bet you it takes 2-3 gallons of oil in energy to produce 1 gallon of garbage oil
na... the plant uses its own fuel grade oil it produces to run the plant.

svandamme 09-15-2006 11:35 AM

just couple it to the gererator

teenerted1 09-15-2006 02:25 PM

Reports from 2005 summarized some economic setbacks which the Carthage plant encountered since its planning stages. It was thought that concern over mad cow disease would prevent the use of turkey waste and other animal products as cattle feed, and thus this waste would be free. As it turns out, turkey waste may still be used as feed in the United States, so that the facility must purchase that feed stock at a cost of $30 to $40 per ton, adding $15 to $20 per barrel to the cost of the oil. Final cost, as of January 2005, was $80/barrel ($1.90/gal).

crude oil didnt even get this high. looks like we are going to have to wait on this stuff till it gets more efficient too.


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