Aspartame (nutrasweet) Poisoning?

[VaSteve]

Anyone in here drink a lot of diet sodas? I have been hearing talk on an doff for a while about aspartame poisoning. There's a lot of stuff out on the internet, but you never can tell if it's from the usual hyprochondriacs and nut jobs.

A car BBS isn't the best place for medical advice, but I drink quite a bit of Diet Coke and lately have been having joint pain, which is one of the supposed symptoms. Anyone else drink a bunch and have some insight?

[Tobra]

uh, quit drinking so much Diet Coke?

[dhoward]

No.
http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp

[RickM]

I believe Diet Coke also comes in a Splenda sweetened formula. That said too much of anything will probably be bad for you.

[IROC]

I think the Aspartame poisoning thing was a hoax. Something about some European study that showed problems with it, but the study was flawed, etc. I drink Diet Dr Pepper like it's going out of style and I feel grea.......wmedcj2 v kbf (head slumps onto keyboard)...

Check this out:

http://www.acsh.org/healthissues/newsID.265/healthissue_detail.asp

"Aspartame is one of the most thoroughly tested substances in the U.S. food supply. Numerous authorities, including the Food and Drug Administration, the Joint Expert Committee on Food Additives of the FAO/WHO, the European Community, and the American Medical Association have concluded that aspartame is a safe product, except in the rare cases of phenylketonuria."

Mike

[VaSteve]

Originally posted by IROC
I drink Diet Dr Pepper like it's going out of style and I feel grea.......wmedcj2 v kbf (head slumps onto keyboard)...

Mike

LOL!

[Nostril Cheese]

Soda is bad for you in general.

drink urine instead

[RickM]

Got an Ant Problem? Use Aspartame http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/5/got_an_ant_problem_use_aspartame.htm

[IROC]

Originally posted by RickM
Got an Ant Problem? Use Aspartame http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/5/got_an_ant_problem_use_aspartame.htm

Not true, it appears. (edit: the article may be true, but the rumors that aspartame being originally developed as an ant poison are not)

http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/antpoison.asp

...but Coumadin was originally used as rat poison and is now probably the best blood thinner for humans...

Mike

[Dottore]

Aspartame is a terrible thing to ingest with any regularity. Google it and read - and you will find lots of horror stories from reputable sources.

Why drink that **** when there are so many healthy alternatives?

[widebody911]

Rummy likes it!

http://www.rense.com/general33/legal.htm

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/05/07/aspartame_gate_when_donald_rumsfeld_was_ceo_of_sea rle.htm

[Hugh R]

I have a friend who used to own a restaurant and he says that mice and rats won't eat the nutrisweet, aspertane stuff. That's gotta tell you something.

[Rearden]

Originally posted by Hugh R
I have a friend who used to own a restaurant and he says that mice and rats won't eat the nutrisweet, aspertane stuff. That's gotta tell you something.

Perhaps their taste receptors don't translate the molecule into a pleasurable taste, or it doesn't emit an odor. I can't imagine they don't eat it because of health concerns ;-)

[Halm]

In the mid '80's when Aspartame was approved by the FDA, it was the single most tested ever. GD Searle was still owned by the Searle brothers and they were in a major pissing contest with the long standing senator from Wisconsin that headed the appropriate committee (can't remember his name, Proxmeyer?).

The story goes that Seale and the senator had a heated meeting prior to a 1979 FDA PMA hearing in which Searle told the senator that if he blocked Aspartame again, they would move their businesses from the state. A 24' bed truck later delivered the submission to the FDA, yet the applicaton was denied.

Searle began moving businesses from Wisconsin -I soon after went to work for one of them in TX- and they began another round of testing. Some where around '85 when a tractor trailer pulled up to the FDA with the latest testing, the Wisconsin senator was not longer able to block the product and it was approved.

Is the product safe? I have no idea. That said it was tested more than anything up to that point and would still rank way up there.

[azasadny]

I can't consume anything with Nutrasweet or Splenda in it due to an allergic reaction. We determined about three months ago that this (artificial sweetners) were causing my symptoms and I quit cold turkey and have been using Stevia as a sweetner. No problems of any kind since...

[scottmandue]

Originally posted by RickM
That said too much of anything will probably be bad for you.

You mean except for booze and sex right?

[RickM]

Originally posted by scottmandue
You mean except for booze and sex right?

I stand corrected....time for happy hour

[artplumber]

Originally posted by IROC
...but Coumadin was originally used as rat poison and is now probably the best blood thinner for humans...

Mike

I wouldn't say it's the "best". That requires a context.


As to the whole poisoning thing. Well I know someone, who knows someone, who heard from their friend that someone they knew woke up in a ice filled bathtub with a huge scar on their right side and had to be rushed to the hospital because someone (else) had taken their kidney....

[Z-man]

Originally posted by Dottore
Aspartame is a terrible thing to ingest with any regularity. Google it and read - and you will find lots of horror stories from reputable sources.

Why drink that **** when there are so many healthy alternatives?

As a diabetic, my choice of sweet drinks is very limited.

There's:

1. saccarin - which has been proven to cause cancer in lab rats.

2. Nutri-sweet (aspartane) - which is dangerous to people suffering from PKU, due to the possibility of the amio acids in aspartane breaking down when the substance is heated up and cooled down too much. (People with PKU can get brain damage is too much of this amio acid gets in their system).

3. Splenda - which has been proven to cause diahrrea in persons such as me.

4. Stevia - a natural root extract which so far, doesn't have any adverse side effects, and is a natural sugar substittute and works very effectively. So why isn't this product out in more Sugar free products? I suspect the chemical companies don't want this alternative out there. (Greedy idiots..)

5. Drink water.

Most of the stuff I drink has Nutri-sweet in it (ie: aspartane). I don't suffer from PKU, so that minimizes any adverse effects on me. At least it keeps the voices in my head quiet.

-Z-man.

[Dottore]

Jesus man, what's wrong with water (still or sparkling), and fruit juice?

Or tea?

Or get a juicer. Blend some fruit and or some vegetables. Add some water and/or ice and/or milk. Even add some alcohol for god's sake. But why all of these poisons???