Yeah, like what I said on pg. 1! :o

-Z

Nobody's listening to you, Z! :D

Yeah, I know. I find that offensive. :p

Maybe he'd like to not be a victim of friendly fire.

So you did, but you have to admit that fancy red lettering I used shows up real pretty like.;)

I must of missed it in between all the regular non-sense.

:D

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wow. Just Wow. Kevin Tillman speaks out
 

Money starts flowing in teacher bonus program
POSTED: 9:47 a.m. EDT, October 23, 2006


WASHINGTON (AP) -- In the closing weeks of the fall campaign, the Bush administration is handing out money for teachers who raise student test scores, the first federal effort to reward classroom performance with bonuses.

The 16 grants total $42 million and cover many states. The government has announced only the first grants, $5.5 million for Ohio, where Education Secretary Margaret Spellings was making the presentation Monday.

The department will release the remaining grants in the coming weeks, falling right before the Nov. 7 elections in which a reeling Republican Party is eager for good news.

In Ohio in particular, the GOP could trumpet the news of money for the state education department. The $5.5 million will be shared by schools in Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus and Toledo.

Sen. Mike DeWine, (R-Ohio), is trailing his Democratic rival. Also, Democrats have led for weeks in two House seats long in Republican hands, and party officials talk of capturing two or three more seats. Such gains could help the Democrats take over the House.

The Education Department says the election had no bearing on the timing. The grant application process began in May, and the review was done in the early fall, officials said. Congress approved the program last year.

"It's always a little suspicious when you have these things come out just before the election, allowing members of Congress in tight races to get some money for their district," said Joel Packer, a lobbyist for the National Education Association.

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The ony problem is, Tillman is not a Democratic operative trying to swing an election.

He is a brave and honorable soldier that lost his brother in battle.

It doesn't stop the mindless wolves from attacking him. But nothing stops them. Except the voting both. We will take our country back from the dishonorable cowards that have seized control.

Yea, but in Diebold we trust?

It's not how many votes we get, it's who does the counting.:cool:

Pardon me while I towel up my vomit. You must be the biggest drama queen in the world. Anyway....

No one attacked Tillman.

"Kevin wrote on Truthdig.com, which purchased his work."

I'm going to go out on a limb and say....stay with me here as this is just a guess..........that Truthdig is a Democrat/Liberal site???? Purchased his work? Two week before an election??? Maybe (again just a guess of course) maybe this is what Jeff was talking about?

Sports Illustrated (SI.com) carried this story. Are they a liberal site? :confused:

You're in there daddy.

Somehow reason is being discarded for faith, dogma, and nonsense.

flaming Commies

have you noticed how many sports teams have *RED* uniforms?!?!?

Not that I know of, no. That's not the point. Neither is Drudge or Fox News who have also covered it. The question is the date of writing/release not the subsequent coverage.

I'm not sure I follow the hair you're splitting. 'splain it to me, Lucy.

I'm really struggling to figure out how you guys never seem to follow my points. I think it's because rather than reading them with the intention of understanding me or my position, you read them with the intention of "getting me" with some comeback or twist of my words.

It could also be my writing style, but I seriously find it curious.

I hope this doesn't mean we should avert our eyes in the presence of the swimsuit edition. :eek:

No, he is not. Correct. I have nothing at all against Tillman; I simply cannot imagine his pain over the loss of his brother. He has every right to be angry and dissillusioned.

Will that anger and dissillusionment extend, someday, to the "mindless wolves" taking advantage of him for their political gain? We will never know. I pray he does not add to his already heavy burden by allowing those wolves that dishonor his fallen brother with their mindless, blind, political ambitions to get to him. Someday he will realize he has been used by the most depraved class in our society, who care not a whit about him or his brother. I hope he can deal with that, and still stand tall in front of his brother when they one day meet again.

Len, it's either your writing style, or something in your grey matter. :D On a positive note, you seem like a pleasant enough character, and I'm sure Rodeo will vouch for you. :)

Yea, the same issue as the House Repub leadership covering up for a child predator. It's not the substance the story, it's whatever can be used for a distraction from the substance.

How dare an American soldier that served honorably in Afghanistan and Iraq issue a statement! How dare he do it before an election!

Maybe soon, the president will declare him an "enemy combatant," and you won't have to be bothered with his kind anymore, daddy.

We're pals, infact he wants me to car-sit his Lotus when he's out stumping for Obama in '08:D

car-sit or car strip?

Honestly, Tillman's letter would have much more impact if we were in the throes of a draft. Until then, he reads as if he is only a disgruntled soldier who had a brother who was a SS for the Arizona Cardinals.

The facts can't be mitigated; the Tillmans signed up; Pat went to Afghanistan, where OBL was located at the time, shielded by Taliban.

It's fantasy to think that had Iraq not started, there is a likelihood Pat Tillman would not have been killed.

Of course, that isn't discounting Bush's deceit of the American people at home, and American soldiers in Iraq. It's just the two incidents (Tillman's death and Iraq) can not be accurately linked.

I dub thee....Sir Hyperbole, master of all that is manufactured and exaggerated.

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You attack, mock, and "joke around" like a true pro.

Unfortunately, the few times you actually discuss substance, it's to tell us how Bush didn't say stay the course the few hundred times he said stay the course, and how mission accomplished didn't mean that the mission was, well, accomplished.

It's no wonder you stick to the wisecracks.

I'm now convinced that you really mean those things, and that's really sad. Sad that you cannot comprehend such elementary distinctions.

No one has an issue with the substance of Tillman's story. To believe that one man's, or his brother's suffering, will ever affect our foreign policy is incredibly stupid. To believe the Tillmans are somehow special in their suffering does everyone else that lost a loved one a disservice. Worse yet, you and your cohorts' feigned concern over this one man disgraces him. Parading him about as your anti-war pre-election poster boy is one of the more shameful things I think I have seen you do. The only fallen heroes that matter to you are the ones you can get some mileage out of in your anti-Bush crusade.

Yep, they're heroes so long as they are dead and cannot offer criticism of your cult leader or his foolish, dishonest and cowardy ways.

When they are alive, and if they dare speak out, they become traitors that spew "crap" and do not deserve the right to speak.

GWB has tapped into the little authoritarians everywhere. It's both sad and sickening to see them come out of the woodwork.

Seems to me that it is either a bunch of BS made up by some wacko lib, or it is written by a fool who volunteered for something and then *****ed because he got what he asked for.

I got a clue for anyone else out there thinking of joining the service:
IT AINT LIKE IN THE MOVIES!
Ever hear the saying "war is hell"? It isn't supposed to all nice nice and fair. It is killing, it is ugly, and it is nasty. At least it better be or you will have the same fate as france in WWII.
Go ahead, try to be polite in a war and see how long you last. Damnfools. bahhh!

Gotta hand it to you Rodeo, you are a shifty one. Another one of your manufactured little fables has been exposed for what it is, so you change the topic and pretend that is what you were talking about all along.

This is not about other heroes speaking out. This isn't even about Tillman speaking out. It's about guiless, spineless, immoral bastards using his grief to further their agenda. He will be yesterday's news just as soon as he has served their purpose. And you are doing your best to help them.

...or maybe he would rather his brother did not play political games in his name; it is impossible to know. The brother may be sincere, but his timing makes him suspect.

Why wait so long, he just completed his enlistment is the only thing that makes any sense at all, and even that does not really. If he is sincere, he speaks out right away.

He is sincere enough for folks like Rodeo. As long as they can use him to attack Bush, their real purpose in publicizing his words, they are happy. He has become incredibly predictible and one dimensional. Like the little dog in Dr. Doolittle ("throw the ball throw the ball throw he ball throw the ball...") he is incapable of of focusing on anything else other than "get Bush get Bush get Bush get Bush..." Even if it means using others' pain and suffering to do so. How sad. How utterly deplorable.

It is deplorable to disagree with the president, or post the writing of a soldier in disagreement with the president. How utterly un-American of me to engage in free speech, or to agree with others engaging in free speech.

What a horrible country we live in that someone like Mr. Tillman can criticize the president as the phony, incompetent liar that he is.

If you mouthbreathers have the opportunity, Mr. Tillman will be behind bars, as will all the other "deplorable" citizens that do not celebrate the greatness of Mr. Bush.

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The first tool in Mr. Higgins arsenal, to shut up "deplorable" people that criticize the president:

(1) UNLAWFUL ENEMY COMBATANT- (A) The term "unlawful enemy combatant" means--

(ii) a person who *** has been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant by a *** competent tribunal established under the authority of the President or the Secretary of Defense.

If the president says you are an "unlawful enemy combatant" using his hand-picked people, that's what you are. How could he not use this provision against "deplorable" people that dare speak their mind two weeks before an election? People that criticize policies and therefore "hate" the president.

How dare Mr. Tillman attempt to influence the election. Who does he think he is?

Here's an idea. How about after Nov 7, we apply some simple rules to OT.

Rule #1) The party that loses the election shuts the f*ck up.
Rule #2) The party that wins the election stops responding to posts by the party that lost when they fail to adhere to Rule #1.

The nest result is that *everybody* shuts the f*ck up - but some do it more smugly... ;)

Since my party has virtually no dog in this hunt, the above leaves me with an almost clear field.

Are you ready for that?

How deplorable of you to suggest that some side might lose the election. Are you trying to infuence the election? Why did you wait till now to bring up your suggesiton? I find the timing of your announcement, two weeks before the election, deplorable.

I'd be fine with it. But I think I may be in the minority... :D

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