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lendaddy 10-25-2006 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by on-ramp
you're defending Rush in this? you're just as pathetic as he is.
You're an idiot or you're uninformed. Rush neither mocked nor belittled Fox in any way. Much like the others you read a snipped and went after it. Embrace your ignorance.

lendaddy 10-25-2006 11:15 AM

He simply pointed out that this is yet another attempt by the left (similar to the Jersey girls) to put out a victim to fight their battles as they know anyone that disagrees with them will be attacked as a monster. That he is being used by the left as a tool.

How right he was.

Superman 10-25-2006 11:16 AM

Lots of suckers out there. Rush is not in the business of routing out the problems of society. His agenda has nothing to do with public policy, except in how that policy can help him achieve his goal, which is SELLING. He needs income, and advertisers, and listeners. And the best way to get those listeners is to be very emotional. Accuse people of things. I wouldn't call him insensitive. Sensitivity has nothing to do with it. He is a simple "opportunist" and would probably be very comfortable agreeing with this label, off the record.

nostatic 10-25-2006 12:25 PM

I'll tell you what Len and Tim. Have one of your parents die very slowly from Parkinsons. Watch it and live through it over a 10 year period. Then come back and see if you don't have a different take on Rush's "innocent" comments.

lendaddy 10-25-2006 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by nostatic
I'll tell you what Len and Tim. Have one of your parents die very slowly from Parkinsons. Watch it and live through it over a 10 year period. Then come back and see if you don't have a different take on Rush's "innocent" comments.
Sorry to hear that, but it explains your irrational response. Rush did not mock him or his disease in anyway. He was concerned that he was being used. If you had listened instead of reading a snippet you would know that.

Again, I'm sorry for your loss.

techweenie 10-25-2006 12:41 PM

I guess his fans rise to defend Rush in every case -- I thought them defending him for calling Chelsea Clinton "a dog" was pretty low. I mean, she was 13.

But this is indefensible.

-------

Parkinson Foundation Debunks Limbaugh’s False Smears of Michael J. Fox

Rush Limbaugh has repeatedly attacked actor Michael J. Fox for appearing in television campaign ads promoting stem cell research. Fox, who suffers from Parkinson’s disease, appears “visibly racked by tremors” in the ads.

“He is exaggerating the effects of the disease,” Limbaugh told listeners yesterday. “He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act. … This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting.”

According to the National Parkinson Foundation, Limbaugh has no idea what he’s talking about. The Washington Post reports:

[I]n an interview in Ladies Home Journal’s September edition, Fox said he was taking a medication that causes jerking, fidgeting and other abnormal involuntary movements, known as dyskinesia. Fox said he was taking another medication to lessen those side affects.

An official of the National Parkinson Foundation said movements like those exhibited by Fox are the result of taking medication to treat the disease, which would otherwise result in rigidity.

“When you see someone with those movements, it’s not because they have not taken medication but because they probably have taken medication for some time,” the official said. “If you don’t take the medication, then you freeze.”

Limbaugh continued the assault today, calling Fox’s video “an attack ad” that is “filled with disinformation about embryonic stem cell research.”

lendaddy 10-25-2006 12:41 PM

Perhaps to help clarify for those that did not hear the show.

Rush did not point out the tremors of Fox as an isolated event to ridicule. He was discussing the way the left puts victims up to fight their battles knowing that anyone who disagrees with them will be viewed as a monster, it's an ugly tactic. In that vein he was getting across the point that Fox was made to look as pathetic as possible to achieve that goal. That after viewing that commercial that is so painful to watch and evokes so much sympathy, how could anyone disagree with him (whether you know the issue or not)?
Rush was critical of the tactic, never Fox or his disease with he expressed great sympathy and compassion for. He also lauded Fox for his foundation and his efforts to find a cure. All of this before the **** hit the fan, so it was sincere.

on-ramp 10-25-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Rush did not mock him or his disease in anyway.





“He is exaggerating the effects of the disease,” Limbaugh told listeners yesterday. “He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act. … This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting.”

lendaddy 10-25-2006 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by on-ramp
“He is exaggerating the effects of the disease,” Limbaugh told listeners yesterday. “He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act. … This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting.”
In regards to the tactic yes, that's what I said. He never mocked him or his disease.

Fox's entire point of appearing that way (certainly by choice) was to use emotion rather than fact to make his case. That is the problem.
The emotion and sympathy is so strong that no one dares oppose him.

Racerbvd 10-25-2006 12:54 PM

Hitler had Parkinson’s disease.

dhoward 10-25-2006 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Snipped....
The emotion and sympathy is so strong that no one dares oppose him.

Not true in this case.
That's the problem. The issue has become "What God wants us to do", as opposed to what are the facts.
The MJF ad is compelling. In this case, that's a good thing.

nostatic 10-25-2006 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Sorry to hear that, but it explains your irrational response. Rush did not mock him or his disease in anyway. He was concerned that he was being used. If you had listened instead of reading a snippet you would know that.

Again, I'm sorry for your loss.

r i g h t

like i said, if you'd been through it, you might have a *rational* and empathetic response instead of the knee-jerk rush-sucking one.

on-ramp 10-25-2006 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy

Fox's entire point of appearing that way (certainly by choice) was to use emotion rather than fact to make his case. That is the problem.
The emotion and sympathy is so strong that no one dares oppose him.

you smoking crack or something?

Fox is showing us what Parkison's disease is and what it does to you.. this is the problem?
What facts is he making up?

lendaddy 10-25-2006 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by on-ramp
you smoking crack or something?


Fox should be commended for showing what a terrible disease this is and the urgency to cure it.

So, can the family of a beheaded infidel run the video of their child being beheaded in an ad against anti war dems?

Showing their courage to use their experience to better the world?

I think not.

nostatic 10-25-2006 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy

The emotion and sympathy is so strong that no one dares oppose him.

you mean kind of like labeling those against the war as "traitors"? And saying that questioning the administration is "treasonous"?

r i g h t

The left is the only one that tugs on the heartstrings of the public

r i g h t

And of course Rush didn't mean anything personal by it. Just like his comments about drug addicts being beneath contempt back in the mid 90's weren't personal...

techweenie 10-25-2006 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
In regards to the tactic yes, that's what I said. He never mocked him or his disease.

Fox's entire point of appearing that way (certainly by choice) was to use emotion rather than fact to make his case. That is the problem.
The emotion and sympathy is so strong that no one dares oppose him.

LOL.

How soon the "right" forgets their stunts surrounding the Terry Schiavo case.

lendaddy 10-25-2006 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by nostatic
r i g h t

like i said, if you'd been through it, you might have a *rational* and empathetic response instead of the knee-jerk rush-sucking one.

If you see this as somehow demeaning or as a slap against those with the disease you're finding something that isn't there.

lendaddy 10-25-2006 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by nostatic
you mean kind of like labeling those against the war as "traitors"? And saying that questioning the administration is "treasonous"?


Again, you're finding things that aren't there.

Some weebles are wobbles but not all wobbles are zoinks.

lendaddy 10-25-2006 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by techweenie
LOL.

How soon the "right" forgets their stunts surrounding the Terry Schiavo case.

I never said they had a patent on it. But I don't recall Sciavo starring in any ads writhing around in her bed either.

lendaddy 10-25-2006 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by dhoward
Not true in this case.
That's the problem. The issue has become "What God wants us to do", as opposed to what are the facts.
The MJF ad is compelling. In this case, that's a good thing.


I'm not picking sides on the issue, I don't know both sides well enough on this particular bill. I'm simply pointing out that Rush didn't mock or belittle those with the disease which is what the media is implying.


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