Liberal camp? This kind of behavior and mindset is hardly exclusive to "liberals."

The damage is past, what do you do to teach the lesson in the best interests of all concerned?

If you lost a contract, firing him would not get it back. I think if someone complained then you could say the guy was suspended for a few days without pay and have him write or deliver a verbal apology to the complainant. Anyone complainant who asks for more from you is probably so petty that he will wear you down with things he finds fault with in your service or product.


On this trip I had my mother in law, my wife and her two sisters up at Amelia Island. And it was a business trip up at St. Marys.

You are absolutely right. It is, however, more prevelent among liberals. Who has the worst track record regarding poor behavior when it comes to expressing political positions? Who is more likey to shout down a speaker with whom they dissagree, put together a disruptive protest to call attention to their cause, to have that turn into a riot, to lay down in front of a bulldozer, or to flip off a President in front of a buss load of kids? I think we all know the answer.

shout down a speaker with whom they disagree. Well, Bill O'Reilly comes to mind. Did you see him on the Oprah show last week?


Who is more likely to join a peace march against war?
Who is more likely to join a march for civil rights?
Who is more likely to work at Habitat for Humanity?

I think we all know the answer.

Did you see what Oprah did to Tom Selleck?

How likely is that peace march to turn to a riot? I've always loved the irony of that one. How likely is that civil rights march to turn to a riot? Lots of history there, and for the last 40 years or so, it has not been the bigots that show up that wind up starting them, it's the protesters themselves.

I well remember the WTO demonstrations here in Seattle. The wanton property destruction; property that just happened to be downtown and had nothing to do with the convention. The assaults on individuals in the crowd by others in the crowd. The violent, rock-throwing attacks on police officers. The travelling anarchists that go from demonstration to demonstration, "seeding" the crowd. The crowds do nothing to keep these in check; no one on the left even tries, even though many are well known.

"Peaceful protest" has become an oxymoron where the left is involved. Like the children many of them are, they see any such event as a chance to cut loose. It used to be that the biggest problem at left-wing protests were the rednecks or authorities that showed up to mess with them. Those days are gone. In these situations, the left has become its own worst enemy; unwilling and unable to police itself. Anything goes these days. Including, as aptly demonstrated here, public employees flipping off Presidents in fron t of a bus load of kids.

As predicted, the left lined right up to defend and minimize these actions and to minimize the punishment. It's no wonder they are unable to behave in public; even on the most clear-cut, indefensible, open and shut case, they cannot discern right from wrong. Amazing.

Oh, we see right from wrong.

It's on the punishment we differ. But then I would not shoot the burglar in the back as he exits my window either.

So you can't shoot either? :p

Jeff,
back on track.
Flipping off the president while on duty is wrong, but termination is a wrong punishment. And whoever made that decision over reacted.

I disagree. If I had an employee driving a company vehicle and he flipped someone off, I'd fire his a$$. Wouldn't take me a minute to decide.

I guess we will just have to dissagree on this one. Normally, I would agree that is kind of harsh. The extenuating circumstances at play here, in my opinion, push this one over the edge. Public employee on the job, job involves school kids, does the deed in front of them. That should, in the end, send him packing.

Most would argue in favor of those tending to our children being held to a higher standard. I think the involvement of the President in this one has muddied the waters a bit; some folks that normally would not defend these actions do so because of a dislike of Dubya and a need to politicize everything. I would stand by firing this guy if he had flipped off any motorist under these circumstances.

are you referring to the Republican from Florida who resigned recently after allegations of misconduct or the Democrat from Taxachusetts a few years back who did not resign after he actually had sex with a minor page?

In this case, totally apropriate to notify the school, as well as to fire the guy. Silly of you to even bring it up Steve

Well, I have not only donated but built for Habitat for Humanity.
You are correct on the marching and protesting, but when it comes to really doing something, with ones own money and if employed (not government either) time, at least in North FL. it is the Republicans who answer the calls while the local liberals whine and march about a issue. When a local liberal radio station put out a call for blood donations, he was the only liberal who showed up, the rest of us were Republicans:D Liberal march & protest, we try and solve the problem:D