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tabs 11-06-2006 09:57 AM

I am easily swayed by the things I see and hear...Like full Metal Jacket for instance...We are in Iraq to help the Iraqis, because inside every rag head is an American waiting to get out....I thought that was such an interesting philosophy that I just had to expound upon it.

Superman 11-06-2006 10:00 AM

I've become more liberal.

I know Dantilla. Great guy. I've met Jeffl Higgins. Another great guy, I think. What appears at this time to be a huge difference, a great ideological chasm between us......is not as real as most of you think. I agree with Dan that outcomes should not (are not) guaranteed. Equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome, I agree. And I don't have an inclination to try to guarantee outcomes. Or to infringe on anybody's freedom. But I do wish to give everyone the best starting point we can.

Just a simple example. This weekend with my daughter, I watched a show about several young people suffering from Tourette's Syndrome. I wished all of them success, but especially one. There was a young fellow who seemed to be a nice guy, but was having a great deal of trouble achieving his goals. He wants to find a good woman and make his way in the world. He wants to do things and accomplish things and test the high potential he knows he has. But the Tourettes gets in the way. I want him to be free from that, because I felt sure he is one of those folks who, the further he can go, the better off a bunch of other people are.

There are lots of people who do not have Tourettes and who some of you think have just the same opportunities as everyone else and you are wrong. Some do not.

legion 11-06-2006 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by bt1211
Legion, I dont know you but your last paragraph is a classic example of displaced anger.

I am not being a jerk. You should talk with someone about what your father did to you.

I am sure most of us, as grown men, have never had that "talk" with or about our fathers. I can say for myself that the lack of that "talk" has coloured my life.

That was just a small sampling of some of the reasons why I dislike trial lawyers and Democrats--there are several other reasons. It's just easy for illustrative purpose to show how specific life experiences played into specific opinions.

I'm actually very open among my friends about things like this. I firmly blame my father for his own mistakes. I just dislike the institutions/people that were more than happy to help him in his decline as I'm convinced his was not an isolated case.

wludavid 11-06-2006 10:08 AM

Legion, I think disliking lawyers and wanting tort reform are bipartisan issues.

Why do you lump trial lawyers and democrats together?

svandamme 11-06-2006 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by wludavid


Why do you lump trial lawyers and democrats together?


why not?

legion 11-06-2006 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by wludavid
Why do you lump trial lawyers and democrats together?
Trial lawyers are major donors to the DNC. Many Democratic candidates are former trial lawyers (John Edwards, for example). Trial lawyers have consistently acted through the Democratic Party to block tort reform.

alf 11-06-2006 10:25 AM

When I discover that I am wrong, I change my mind.

Edit:
Here is the original quote form Keynes of Keynesian Economics fame. This is the most useful thing I learnt in that Econ class.

'When I find that I've been mistaken I change my mind: what do you do?'

John Maynard Keynes

nostatic 11-06-2006 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by alf


'When I find that I've been mistaken I change my mind: what do you do?'

Blame Bush.

No wait, blame the liberals.

No wait, blame Islam.





what was the question? Jim, can I get that drink now?

bt1211 11-06-2006 11:29 AM

Legion with that kind of reasoning, I should hate the Porsche mechanic that fixed my neighbors Porsche. Because my neighbor ran over my dog with one.

bryan

livi 11-06-2006 12:19 PM

A heavy subject, judging by all the humorous off-topic posts. ;)

I am unfortunately a big egocentric. As long as I am left in peace with my hard earned money, not too heavily taxed and my children are able to grow up in a reasonably safe environment - I am content. But no more than content. Happy ? I donīt know the meaning of that word. Democrat, liberal, republican, conservative - I donīt know the meaning of those words neither. Doesnīt make sense. Nothing does. I donīt.

Jim Richards 11-06-2006 12:23 PM

I was heavily influenced by the single cell organisms that came before me.

legion 11-06-2006 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by bt1211
Legion with that kind of reasoning, I should hate the Porsche mechanic that fixed my neighbors Porsche. Because my neighbor ran over my dog with one.

bryan

Except that in your example, the mechanic is steering the car. ;)

Aurel 11-06-2006 05:00 PM

When you rely on others to make a living, you are liberal. Then, when you start relying on just yourself and have to be the one who provides for others, you become conservative.

Aurel

livi 11-06-2006 05:22 PM

I thought the definition of a conservative was a liberal that got mugged.

Hugh R 11-06-2006 05:40 PM

To me a liberal is someone who has grand ideas for fixing society with MY money.

livi 11-06-2006 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by Hugh R
To me a liberal is someone who has grand ideas for fixing society with MY money.

That too! :D

Moneyguy1 11-06-2006 06:14 PM

Legion:

I am not an expert on human behavior, but what you have described seems to fit the role of "nurture" in forming our likes and dislikes. Over time, those memories and their influence on your thinking may fade. Like a shrink I once knew said: "Years from now you will have the same questions. The difference is the answers will no longer be important."

Keep on truckin, man....


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