Orange Coast College in CA bans pledge of allegience

cantdrv55 · 12:07 PM

This pisses me off

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061110/us_nm/life_pledge_dc

EdT82SC · 11-10-2006, 11:57 AM

This is great. It's about time we stop forcing people to pledge allegience to a god they don't believe in.

If you want to teach your kids to love god then do it yourself rather then relying on your government to do it for you.

cantdrv55 · 12:16 PM

It's not the reference to God that bothers me, it's the quote below.

Ball said the ban largely came about because the trustees didn't want to publicly vow loyalty to the American government before their meetings. "Loyalty ought to be something the government earns through performance, not through reciting a pledge," he said.

Burnin' oil · 11-10-2006, 12:14 PM

They're college kids. What do you expect? They'll either mature or become leaders of the DNC.

mikester · 11-10-2006, 12:17 PM

Intolerant idiots. F'ing great - giving my home state a bad name. Please fellas; there are fruits and nuts in california but not everyone here is. In fact where this is happening is a very conservative part of Southern California (Orange County).

I'm an American and I am a patriot; I am also a Democrat and a citizen of the great state of California. I believe in everything about the pledge though I do find the words "under god" unnecassary. The history of the wording speaks for itself, when I say the pledge at my various club meetings I simply omit those words - nobody has ever said anything to me about it.

Remember; these are probably kids rebelling from their rich parents. Once they start paying taxes they will conservative right up most likely.

the · 11-10-2006, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by EdT82SC
This is great. It's about time we stop forcing people to pledge allegience to a god they don't believe in.

I read the article. No one was ever being forced to pledge allegiance to anything.

What is happened is the pledge of allegiance is now BANNED. So even those that would like to participate, can't.

See the difference, yah?

"The move was led by three recently elected student trustees, who ran for office wearing revolutionary-style berets . . . "

LOL.

They must be confused. I thought liberals/revolutionaries were AGAINST the banning or censorship of speech. Yet they want to BAN people from doing something, simply because THEY don't agree with it. Is that a liberal concept?

Nostril Cheese · 11-10-2006, 12:57 PM

I plead alignment to the ham
of the united snakes of a merry cow
and to the republicans
for which they scam
one nacho
underpants
with liberty and justice
for those who can afford it

artplumber · 11-10-2006, 01:29 PM

Not to generalize too much, but it's a community college - not necessarily the sharpest tacks in the box.

coloradoporsche · 11-10-2006, 01:53 PM

Quote:

This is great. It's about time we stop forcing people to pledge allegience to a god they don't believe in.

Werd.

Oh, I mean "+1".

wrecktech · 11-10-2006, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the They must be confused. I thought liberals/revolutionaries were AGAINST the banning or censorship of speech. Yet they want to BAN people from doing something, simply because THEY don't agree with it. Is that a liberal concept?

It is in today's world. The "Liberal Elite" has to be the most hypocrytical group.

Quote:

Originally posted by the "The move was led by three recently elected student trustees, who ran for office wearing revolutionary-style berets . . . "

I also thought the were against military actions.... Oh wait they must be freedom fighters, fighting to limit our freedoms. Maybe when they grow up they will aspire to be thought police.

Don Ro · 11-10-2006, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cantdrv55
This pisses me off

My, how you talk.
Look at the positive side.
The slow and painless erosion of it all.
Less shock when you awaken in 2010 > Canada, USA, and Mexico will be the NAU - North American Union.
Borders will be no more, new currency (the Amero), no more America as we have known it.

See? It's all good.

Danimal16 · 11-10-2006, 05:09 PM

I grew up in good old Santa Ana. I remember when we said the pledge of allegence in Elementary School that I noticed some kids in my classes did not stand up and recite it. I asked my mom and she told me that these kids were of a religion (unnamed) that prohibited thier taking the pledge. I remember my "Oh" answer and never gave it a second thought. I really did not see anything wrong with it.

What I find abhorent is that the values on which this country were based are being subverted by a bunch of malcontents. I find it abhorent because the very system that the malcontents so deride allows them to be intolerant so as to deny those that created the very liberties that allowed the POS malcontents the mechanisim to return the favor??? by what, denying the liberties to others. If they don't like the pledge what gives the POS Bast^%$ the right to BAN others from saying it.

My recommendation to the students at OCC, don't recall the Bast%$$, revolt and run their sorry butts off campus on a rail with their berets shoved up their butts.

And that is all I have to say about that. Looks like its time for another self-imposed time out.

CRH911S · 11-10-2006, 07:58 PM

To me the "under God" addition is unnecessary. Nothing can divide like religion and this is something to keep in mind.

sammyg2 · 11-11-2006, 01:46 PM

IMO, kids in college don't know their a$$ fron third base. They haven't BTDT, but most of em think they know everything.
Berkely has proven that over and over.
Wait until they actually have to live in the real world without mommy or their professors. then they'll see what is real and what is not.