Is homosexualism genetic?

[slakjaw]

Is homosexualism genetic?

I think it is but it got me to thinking and wondering, if it is genetic why is it still a part of todays society? Gay men and women have no chance for reproductive success or at least you would think so, right?

[the]

Originally posted by slakjaw
Is homosexualism genetic?

Is homosexualism a word?

[dd74]

Is it genetic? Most likely, yes. Partly behavioral, probably. Many things go into whether someone is straight or gay, IMO.

As far as reproducing, gays can reproduce. Not with each other. But that doesn't stop them from having children.

[slakjaw]

Originally posted by the
Is homosexualism a word?

no

[the]

Originally posted by dd74


As far as reproducing, gays can reproduce. Not with each other.

and if my aunt had a di#k she'd be my uncle.

[Z-man]

Ok, from a pschological point of view, and IMHO, there are three types of homosexuals:

1. Biological: a person with a chemical imbalance - like a male with higher than normal estrogen levels, and lower than normal testosterone levels, or messed up X and/or Y chromosomes. Such a person can develop homosexual tendancies.

2. Environmental: a boy who lives in a home with a very strong female influence and a very weak male influence. Or a boy with two mothers, or someone who has grown up in an environment that would lead a person towards a homosexual lifestyle. Again, such an individual may develop homosexual tendancies.

3. The "Thrill seeker" Such a person has done all sorts of deviant activities, and homosexulaity is just another avenue of sexual fullfillment.

So, IMHO, in some cases, homosexuality can be in the genetics. But not all homosexuals are of that type.

-Zoltan.

[dd74]

I think Zoltan has it correct. The thrillseeker part I wonder about, though. A thrillseeker seeks thrills. If they become gay because of seeking thrills, wouldn't they have been gay along?

Genetics and environment, however, I agree with.

[Z-man]

Originally posted by dd74
I think Zoltan has it correct. The thrillseeker part I wonder about, though. A thrillseeker seeks thrills. If they become gay because of seeking thrills, wouldn't they have been gay along?

Genetics and environment, however, I agree with.

Perhaps the thrillseeker type can be better described as one who participates in homosexual activities as a means to satisfy his sexual urges. Perhaps such an individual isn't a "true" homosexual, but we aren't really defining was homosexuality is...

Or something like that...

-Z

[sammyg2]

I don't think it is genetic, I think it is a product of environment and traumatic experiences. That's just my opinion so take it as grain of salt, I am not an expert in that field.
I don't approve of homosexuality but I don't think less of a person because they are gay and i don't discrimiate againt gays.
I figure it is their private business, not mine.
I know people who drink alcohol more that I think they should, but I don't tell them that because it is none of my business unless their drinking affects my life. No, I'm not saying that homosexuality is the same as excessive drinking. I'm just saying that I react in a similar fashion.
i don't necessarily think it is a choice either, any more than someone choooses an addiction, or an excessive temper. It is part of their personality. How many of us have parts of our personality that we are not exactly happy with? I have a limited amount of patience with my fellow human being and sometimes tell people the blunt truth without considering their feelings. I am not as compassionate as i wished i were. I wish that were not the case. Show of hands, how many of us don't have a personality trait that they would like to change?
If I have a tendency to lose my temper because someone else in driving in a way that angers me, can I really control it? Not without a great deal of effort, commitment, and sometimes help. That is who I am even though i'm not proud of it. To stop being like that I would have to change my personality which is easier said that done.
But, if I try to convince myself that it is OK to have road rage, or that is just the way i am, I will continue to have that tendency.

Having said that, if a gay person tries to force me to approve or accept it as normal and makes it my business, I will inform him or her that I do not approve. I'm not saying that they have to do what I think it right, just don''t ask me my opinion and i won't offer it. I don't go around telling people about my sex life expecting them to say that what I do it cool or OK, why should anyone else do that to me?

That is of course outside the workplace. I am intelligent enough to know that discussing things of that nature is not appropriate in the work place and is unprofessional. If a anyone brings that issue up in the work place and makes me uncomfortable, i will report it to HR and request only that it stops.
No law suit, no making a big deal out of it. Just focus on the professional issues and not personal issues.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

"Traumatic experiences"????

No. Sorry....but no.

[paddock jones]

Yes it is genetic. I know these things.
My father passed a gaydetector test....so I'm safe.

[lendaddy]

I'm not sure, does it feel genetic?

[Nathans_Dad]

A tendency towards finding people of the same sex attractive may well be genetic.

Acting on that tendency is most definitely a choice. Same way some people might have a tendency towards drug addiction, theft, murder, etc.

Charles Manson didn't excused just because he might have had a genetic predispostion towards serial murder...

[bt1211]

If "traumatic experiences" causes Homosexuality. Then at one time they weren't gay? I find that hard to believe. What kind of "trauma" would change them back?

What TE would cause beastiality(sp)?
For that matter what TE would cause heterosexuality? Since we can all agree that everyone doesn't have sex to make babies.

I dont subscribe to the thought that all of our "problems" are based on "traumatic experiences".
If that were true all trauma would have a predictable outcome.
Bryan

[Rondinone]

Originally posted by slakjaw
Is homosexualism genetic?

I think it is but it got me to thinking and wondering, if it is genetic why is it still a part of todays society? Gay men and women have no chance for reproductive success or at least you would think so, right?

Mutations happen all the time. Or expression of recessive genes?

[Hawktel]

I don't think its Genetic.

I'm not a biology major, but, I really doubt we would have a mutation thats affecting 10% of the population to make them gay.

So that leaves its something in prehistory.

Historically, we have lots and lots of societies that were very accepting of gays. By its vary nature, I think the mutation would dwindle and die out.

I'm pretty sure its a regular behavior. And I'm pretty sure that everyone isn't 100% one way, or the other when born. I expect that much like Schrodinger's Cat, a newborn is a bunch of options, and nature, and enviroment help it choose what ones it utilizes.

Something like that would explain why gays are fairly common when tolerated, and fairly rare, when persecuted.

[bt1211]

Mutation appear in humans regularly. Intelligence is a mutation, so are web feet, the bridge of your nose (no know use for it), hair on your back, really short or tall people, toes, the ability to wiggle your ears.Why do we even have that flap of skin we call the ear? Lots of stuff in our genetics are mutations.

[dd74]

Originally posted by bt1211
If "traumatic experiences" causes Homosexuality. Then at one time they weren't gay? I find that hard to believe.

I know a woman who as a child in the UK, was of the era when at about five or six, maybe a little older, you're sent off by yourself to boarding school. She was sent to an all-girls boarding school, where a good number of the girls cited that experience as a reason they later in life became lesbians. Why? As she says, the girl-to-girl comfort, compassion and protection caused the basis of a lesbian atmosphere, as there was no one else to offer to these children.

If at five or six, told basically "leave" by one's parents, and put on a train to nowhere one knows, I'm sure a child will find compassion in anything the child can, simply because going through such an ordeal must be a horrific and terrifying experience.

[Flatbutt1]

I'm tired of homosexual threads



Get it? Homosexual THREADS? Ha, I crack me up!

[Hawktel]

Yes Mutations show up all the time, but what your suggesting is that 10 percent of population is being born with a specific mutation, that makes them not want to procreate, although they are capable of it, and it keeps coming back every generation, a steady 10%.

Its inconcievable that over the hundreds of thousands of generations, it wouldn't have either:

1 Died out.
2 Won, and human's died out.

Neither one has happened.