Shock & Awe Iranian Policy

tabs · 09:03 AM

Since we don't really care about the people in the ME or their governments and just want their oil. A Shock and Awe military policy is warranted.

Under this policy you whack Iran hard with air power, hitting all their Air defense systems and Nuclear Program sites. Ground troops would be used for Lightening quick raids to destroy or neutralize any targets of value. Elimination of Political/Religious leadership would be part of the program, as well as infrastructure (Power Plants, Bridges, Sewage Plants etc) Then the US military pulls back.

Since our goal is the elimination of threats to the security of the USA and not nation buiding the USA wouldn't care if Iran falls into the Failed State catagory. It would actually be benifical to the US if it were a failed state. In that it would not be able to mount any kind of coordinated attack on US interests. The US would from time to time surgically remove any AL Qadea type training camps etc that might be established. The US would keep Iran in a state of chaos and disorder.

fastpat · 12-07-2006, 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by tabs
Since we don't really care about the people in the ME or their governments and just want their oil. A Shock and Awe military policy is warranted.

Under this policy you whack Iran hard with air power, hitting all their Air defense systems and Nuclear Program sites. Ground troops would be used for Lightening quick raids to destroy or neutralize any targets of value. Elimination of Political/Religious leadership would be part of the program. Then the US military pulls back.

Since our goal is the elimination of threats to the security of the USA and not nation buiding the USA wouldn't care if Iran falls into the Failed State catagory. It would actually be benifical to the US if it were a failed state. In that it would not be able to mount any kind of coordinated attack on US interests. The US would from time to time surgically remove any AL Qadea type training camps etc that might be established.

Do that, then don't whine when they figure out how to do the same in America.

That's what 9/11/2001 was, Arabian "Shock and Awe".

tabs · 12-07-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Do that, then don't whine when they figure out how to do the same in America.

That's what 9/11/2001 was, Arabian "Shock and Awe".

I didn't know that the Persians were Arabs...

Aurel · Aurel's Garage

Sounds like a plan. My only concern is that China and Russia might not like it. This looks like a good recipe for WWIII on a larger scale.

Aurel

kach22i · kach22i's Garage

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Originally posted by tabs
It would actually be benifical to the US if it were a failed state. In that it would not be able to mount any kind of coordinated attack on US interests.

You mean like a rubber raft filled with exposives?

Sonic dB · Sonic dB's Garage

You forgot to add "kill em' all and let God (Allah) sort them out" Rummy.

tabs · 12-07-2006, 09:17 AM

China don't make me laugh...Who buys their cr@p and they need OIL to run the place...and what about that Trillion $ reserve that they are holding...I suppose they could use it to wipe their a$$es with ...

Russia is a shadow of her former self...knock out her Natural Gas and Oil Production facilities and its all over for the Russians. No Foreign Currency inflow.

tabs · 12-07-2006, 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by kach22i
You mean like a rubber raft filled with exposives?

Better a hole in the side of a ship than a Nuclear tipped missle aimed at Detroit..Ohhh I forget they won't hit Detroit...its Muslim central.

fastpat · 12-07-2006, 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by tabs
China don't make me laugh...Who buys their cr@p and they need OIL to run the place...and what about that Trillion $ reserve that they are holding...I suppose they could use it to wipe their a$$es with ...

Russia is a shadow of her former self...knock out her Natural Gas and Oil Production facilities and its all over for the Russians. No Foreign Currency inflow.

Knock those out, and get a response about 30 minutes later that you'll really dislike.

dd74 · 12-07-2006, 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by tabs
Since we don't really care about the people in the ME or their governments and just want their oil. A Shock and Awe military policy is warranted.

Under this policy you whack Iran hard with air power, hitting all their Air defense systems and Nuclear Program sites. Ground troops would be used for Lightening quick raids to destroy or neutralize any targets of value. Elimination of Political/Religious leadership would be part of the program, as well as infrastructure (Power Plants, Bridges, Sewage Plants etc) Then the US military pulls back.

Since our goal is the elimination of threats to the security of the USA and not nation buiding the USA wouldn't care if Iran falls into the Failed State catagory. It would actually be benifical to the US if it were a failed state. In that it would not be able to mount any kind of coordinated attack on US interests. The US would from time to time surgically remove any AL Qadea type training camps etc that might be established. The US would keep Iran in a state of chaos and disorder.

+1 Good plan. It worked for the Ceasars, Hannibal, Atilla the Hun, etc. It should work now seeing that civilization hasn't seemed to advance much in the last 3,000 years.

Look, as long as radiation can't introduce itself into the oil, I say nuke the whole region.

dd74 · 12-07-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by Aurel
Sounds like a plan. My only concern is that China and Russia might not like it. This looks like a good recipe for WWIII on a larger scale.

Aurel

China is a desperate whore for oil, and Russia comprises a collapsed collection of principalities no better than what is found in a Jerzy Kosinski novel. Neither is a player. They have too much internal strife.

Do what Tabs says, and we have them by the short hairs.

fastpat · 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by dd74
China is a desperate whore for oil, and Russia comprises a collapsed collection of principalities no better than what is found in a Jerzy Kosinski novel. Neither is a player. They have too much internal strife.

Do what Tabs says, and we have them by the short hairs.

Russia is currently the largest exporter of oil on the planet, additionally, Russia has the largest proven reserves of natural gas on the planet today.

They're more than just a player.

tabs · 12-07-2006, 09:32 AM

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Knock those out, and get a response about 30 minutes later that you'll really dislike.

ICBMs are HIGH maintence items which the Russians have not been doing.

Just sit down and figure it out..Putin says hmmm side with the 500 lb Gorilla or Iran??? Putin has no love for Islam...and when did the USSR invade Afgan again, wasn't that right aorund the time that Iran had its Islamic Revoulution??? Do ya think that could be a coincidence.

dd74 · 12-07-2006, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Russia is currently the largest exporter of oil on the planet, additionally, Russia has the largest proven reserves of natural gas on the planet today.

There more than just a player.

Russia also has very little infrastructure. Infrastructure keeps the country together.

And anyway, this isn't about what amount of oil the Russians export or have on reserve. This is about securing Middle East reserves - specifically for ourselves. Russia can't say "boo" about this because, again, they haven't the spine or organization among themselves to thwart in effort such as what Tabs outlines.

Superman · 12-07-2006, 09:45 AM

International relations works just like pro wrestling, right? Smack 'em good and hard, and the danger goes away?

fastpat · 12-07-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by dd74
Russia also has very little infrastructure. Infrastructure keeps the country together.

And anyway, this isn't about what amount of oil the Russians export or have on reserve. This is about securing Middle East reserves - specifically for ourselves. Russia can't say "boo" about this because, again, they haven't the spine or organization among themselves to thwart in effort such as what Tabs outlines.

Since we Americans have no need for mideast oil, all money and lives spent on getting control of it is a waste, and the activity is immoral.

fastpat · 12-07-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by tabs
ICBMs are HIGH maintence items which the Russians have not been doing.

Boy, are you wrong.

tabs · 12-07-2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Since we Americans have no need for mideast oil, all money and lives spent on getting control of it is a waste, and the activity is immoral.

Whats a little immorality more or less...I'll leave living the moral life to U Pat, I'm too busy thinking about the Real World.

dd74 · 12-07-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by Superman
International relations works just like pro wrestling, right? Smack 'em good and hard, and the danger goes away?

It's the reality of greed, my friend, when greed evolves into necessity.

dd74 · 12-07-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Since we Americans have no need for mideast oil, all money and lives spent on getting control of it is a waste, and the activity is immoral.

Is that how Wall Street and the oil companies see it? Why is it when there's the slightest hiccup in the region, oil prices increase? It seems like we do have a need for Mideast oil.