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fastpat 12-14-2006 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
It took you that long to write that? I'm disappointed.

Anyway, you're welcome. I hope the extra bucks we give you make your life a little easier.

I know it's hard for some people to say thank you, so I won't hold it against you.

Your saying the same thing over and over again, Rick, won't make it become true.

m21sniper 12-14-2006 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts
HA! You need to read the *whole* story, not just some fluff piece put out by the AP. The Army's recruiting costs have skyrocketed, and they have significantly lowered their standards. Read the real article, published by a *real* newspaper, the Wall Street Journal:
Actually Wayne, as an ex-soldier, it is my opinion that your article is even more 'fluffy' than Randy's.

LOL.

lendaddy 12-14-2006 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Your saying the same thing over and over again, Rick, won't make it become true.
Rick?

Either way, I can sense your thankfullness and that's enough...... Lets just drop it.

fastpat 12-14-2006 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by lendaddy
Rick?

Either way, I can sense your thankfullness and that's enough...... http://images20.fotki.com/v366/photo...949/hdr-vi.jpgLets just drop it.

Sure, anything for you, sweetheart.

lendaddy 12-14-2006 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Sure, anything for you, sweetheart.
I knew you had a thing for me....we'll talk:D

rcecale 12-14-2006 02:31 PM

FastPaste, on military service contracts:

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Originally posted by fastpat
-1/6/2006-
Many are like me, I was in to defend America, and nothing else. When you get sent to a war like that in Iraq, which isn't to defend America, then that entitles you to take whatever action you can. These soldiers should just quit, staging a huge sitdown strike.

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Originally posted by fastpat
- 8/21/2006-
That means that the vaunted "all volunteer force" is in actualy fact a non-volunteer force by contract. It is in fact prohibited by the 13th Amendment to the Constitution, but the courts won't enforce that Amendment.

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Originally posted by fastpat
-8/21/2006-
If I can convince a man to work for me at a fixed wage, for 3,4, any length of time up to 8 years at my discretion; and can jail him if he decides to walk away, that's Okay with you?

Here's a revelation, such is prohibited by the 13th Amendment, it doesn't matter what kind of contract is signed, it's null and void at the moment of the signing.

And then there's this little beauty...

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Originally posted by fastpat
Further, if I were "cashing a government check" it would be earned, like from any other business. Contractual obligations are just that, contracts.

You seem to have difficulty with that concept, but do try to grasp it.

What a hypocrite! :rolleyes:

Randy

stuartj 12-14-2006 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by m21sniper
Actually Wayne, as an ex-soldier, it is my opinion that your article is even more 'fluffy' than Randy's.

LOL.

A sad comment on the critical capacity of ex soldiers. But Im sure you wouldnt presume to speak for all of them.

fastpat 12-14-2006 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by rcecale
FastPaste, on military service contracts:
And then there's this little beauty...
What a hypocrite! :rolleyes:

Randy

Your post of a series of my posts is heart warming to say the least, that you hang on my every word, and would go back more than a day to retrieve them, if not maintaining a collection on your own computer. We'll touch on that later. :cool:

but, alas, you've strung together unrelated posts that have little or no flow to them as far as communicating intelligent thought, your thought. Tehre's obviously some linearity you hohped to show, but it's just a jumble. http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/happy.gif

Too bad. SmileWavy

stuartj 12-14-2006 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by rcecale


Personally, I prefer to aim high, to be all I can be...one of the few, the proud. After all, being a true American is not just a job, nor an adventure...it's our responsibility!

Randy

A dog is for life, not just for Christmas

BeyGon 12-14-2006 05:44 PM

Something I see here is that most of these kids probably came from Public Schools, that means that the leftist leaning anti American teachers aren't doing as good of a job as they think they are.

rcecale 12-14-2006 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Your post of a series of my posts is heart warming to say the least, that you hang on my every word, and would go back more than a day to retrieve them, if not maintaining a collection on your own computer. We'll touch on that later. :cool:

but, alas, you've strung together unrelated posts that have little or no flow to them as far as communicating intelligent thought, your thought. Tehre's obviously some linearity you hohped to show, but it's just a jumble. http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/happy.gif

Too bad. SmileWavy

Actually, it's called the Search Button, but I wouldn't expect you to understand. Just trust me when I tell you it works very well.

And as for your last sentence...

Tehre's obviously some linearity you hohped to show, but it's just a jumble.

...you do know your "jumbles", don't you? :rolleyes:

Randy

nostatic 12-14-2006 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by Superman
Maybe they couldn't find better jobs.
no no...the economy is booming. I'm sure they had their choice of many excellent paying jobs with benefits.

fastpat 12-14-2006 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by nostatic
no no...the economy is booming. I'm sure they had their choice of many excellent paying jobs with benefits.
Who needs a job that pays well when you get that really cool flak vest, and a chance to kill others in a foreign country.

Really...
http://images6.fotki.com/v92/photos/...pict350-vi.jpg

rcecale 12-14-2006 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Who needs a job that pays well when you get that really cool flak vest, and a chance to kill others in a foreign country.

Really...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166154348.jpg

Fixed that for ya... ;)

Randy

fintstone 12-16-2006 12:10 PM

I imagine that Pat's denial regarding "cashing check" really is just a misleading way to say he has direct deposit into a bank account.

If he really does not receive retired pay...that would explain a lot...

tabs 12-16-2006 01:13 PM

Contributing to Global Warming
 
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Originally posted by fastpat
that isn't my problem, it's yours.

Fastgas sounds just like Cool Chick!

I stopped paying attention to Fastgas, he lives in his own little idealistic world where Black is White and White is Black. He is the type of guy that stands on his little soap box in the park spouting his little amorphisms about how the world should be. Which in the end offers those who struggle with finding real solutions to real problems no help at all, and is just a waste of time arguing with.

cool_chick 12-16-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by Superman
[B]...

Or perhaps recruiting goals were set for achievability.

...

That's exactly what it is. They lowered it to what they were able to recruit about 9 months ago now..

Seahawk 12-16-2006 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by cool_chick
That's exactly what it is. They lowered it to what they were able to recruit about 9 months ago now..
Really? I don't know, so, help me understand with a reference.

fintstone 12-16-2006 04:03 PM

I don't understand. Recruiting goals are based on how many we need to keep our end strength at the congressionally mandated limits. They compute projected losses...deaths, retirements, and end of tours...and recruit enough to fill the need. Obviously, recruiting based on what is achievable would be insane. Where do you guys get this stuff...and better yet, why do you believe it? I imagine the liberals that post here must have purchased many bridges in Brooklyn over the years.

tabs 12-16-2006 04:04 PM

Nope Fint just one..over and over again.

ledhedsymbols 12-16-2006 04:20 PM

It burns me up to hear some of you armchair generals and admirals carp about the military. I resent the implied insult that we are somehow sub-par for being enlisted military members.
I won't spend much of my time by laying out my personal achievements and accomplishments. I'll say this... When you come from a poor family, and are no way shape or form ready for college, why is it not acceptable to do a tour in the military.

I'm just past eight years myself, and I can't think of a better decision I made as an 17 year old kid with no prospects. Screw your intellectual elite attitude. You have no idea what's best for me.

Micah

fastpat 12-16-2006 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by ledhedsymbols
It burns me up to hear some of you armchair generals and admirals carp about the military. I resent the implied insult that we are somehow sub-par for being enlisted military members.
Yet, you, as a group, are just that. To achieve recuitment numbers, entry requirements are adjusted to produce as close to the numbers are necessary. During the month I enlisted in the military in 1967, the US government was drafting over 40,000 per month. I met guys, in the Air Force, a service with supposedly higher standards than everyone else, who could not read. I sat and read the M16 rifle manual to the guy during basic training.

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I won't spend much of my time by laying out my personal achievements and accomplishments. I'll say this... When you come from a poor family, and are no way shape or form ready for college, why is it not acceptable to do a tour in the military.
Because the US government military is engaged in an immoral and illegal war of occupation of a foreign country that never did anyone in America any harm. That's why.

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I'm just past eight years myself, and I can't think of a better decision I made as an 17 year old kid with no prospects. Screw your intellectual elite attitude. You have no idea what's best for me.

Micah
I may not have any idea what's best for you, but I can tell you what's moral and ethical for you, and that's for you to leave the military now, today, within the hour.

Period. If you don't, you will deserve the scorn you destined to receive in the future.

Flatbutt1 12-16-2006 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by fastpat
If you don't, you will deserve the scorn you destined to receive in the future.
The fact that the American government has mis-used the military in no way diminishes the honor of the soldier.

tabs 12-16-2006 05:23 PM

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Originally posted by Flatbutt1
The fact that the Nazis mis-used the German military during WW2 in no way diminishes the honor of the soldier.

fastpat 12-16-2006 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by Flatbutt1
The fact that the American government has mis-used the military in no way diminishes the honor of the soldier.
If the soldier, knowing what the US government is doing, continues to serve then yes, his honor is diminished.

By his own actions. For example, fintstone, if he's really in the military now, has no honor at all.

tabs 12-16-2006 05:35 PM

I guess if U are Bush, Hitler or a supporter there of, U wouldn't consider yourself misusing your military. U would consider their application to be a just cause.

Followers of the above were guilty of Illegal Take over of the Government, War of Agression and Crimes against humanity....Supreme Court decision in 2000, War in Iraq and Gitmo corresponds to Reichstag Fire, War against Poland and Concentration camps ...errie parallel.

ledhedsymbols 12-16-2006 05:46 PM

But none of us were drafted Pat...

fastpat 12-16-2006 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by ledhedsymbols
But none of us were drafted Pat...
Which makes your actions so much worse.

RoninLB 12-16-2006 07:50 PM

Dear Santa,
I have been a good boy all year, and the only thing I ask for is peace and joy in the world for everybody!
Love,
Howard Dean

Dear Howard,
Your parents smoked pot when they had you, didn't they?
Santa

BertBeagle 12-16-2006 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by Porsche-O-Phile
It just shows the kids turning 18 are getting dumber by the year. By the time the first wave of "fully-edumicated-by-'No-Child-Left-Behind' kiddies hits 18, the gubmint will be assured of an endless supply of cannon fodder and dependant-on-the-system individuals. The perfect servants of the modern governmental aristocracy.

*** Edit ***

Before someone accuses me of being "anti-military" or implying that soldiers are stupid (a la John Kerry), let me say that's NOT what I'm saying. A person who enlists is a brave person, but a person who enlists in wartime - especially during THIS war, which is illegitimate by the best interpretation is a fool. And yes, it's possible for someone to be both brave and a fool.

I won’t accuse you of being anti military. You are probably very glad that some will join to help keep the bad guys from bombing your Porsche. But from what you have said, you are just basically an uniformed simple idiot.

I have a son in law who is career Navy – a great guy and one of my best friends. He is from Detroit (how could he possibly be smart and focused??). He is a wonderful father to my grand kids and a great husband to my daughter. He joined for, I feel, all the right reasons and is in his 14 year. They are responsible citizens buying their own home (without my help) and educating their children well. My daughter served 5 years in the Navy and was a crew chief on a MH 53 E combat support helicopter – one of the few women to do so. She had special training with the Seals before going to the mid east. She has a college education. I am very proud of both of them. They have both served over seas but not in the current war. From what I see they are typical of lots of military families I have met.

It is sad that the simple minded can only look for the negative in the military and form their opinions from that.

I don't agree with the war. I know bad decisions were (and continue to be) made. I would like to see them all come home. But war or not, the military is still a very good choice. It's what you make of it – like most things.

Thank goodness for those who serve. There really are very good, smart people in the military.

Ashley Page

BertBeagle 12-16-2006 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by Flatbutt1
The fact that the American government has mis-used the military in no way diminishes the honor of the soldier.
Couldn't have said it better. Thanks

BertBeagle 12-16-2006 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by fastpat
If the soldier, knowing what the US government is doing, continues to serve then yes, his honor is diminished.

By his own actions. For example, fintstone, if he's really in the military now, has no honor at all.

Do you really believe they should all quit the military?

Ashley Page

fintstone 12-16-2006 10:35 PM

Patsy
I have and will proudly serve my country when ever and for as long as I am asked. The bravery our men and women are displaying in Iraq is the United States in her finest hour. I am honored to be spoken of in the same breath as these men who risk their lives to serve their country. Their selflessness and bravery makes the bunch of crying old men that post here seem even more pitiful. Clearly they do not recognize honor when they behold it. Shame.

rcecale 12-16-2006 10:41 PM

Careful there, Fint! Keep up with that attitude and you're liable to end up on paste's Top Ten Most UnAmerican Guys On This Forum list.

Look what it's done to me... :rolleyes:

Randy

fintstone 12-16-2006 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by rcecale
Careful there, Fint! Keep up with that attitude and you're liable to end up on paste's Top Ten Most UnAmerican Guys On This Forum list.

Look what it's done to me... :rolleyes:

Randy

I suspect that I am already included in that number. If so, I am honored.

m21sniper 12-16-2006 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by stuartj
A sad comment on the critical capacity of ex soldiers. But Im sure you wouldnt presume to speak for all of them.
Such a scathing comment should really include more detail or be a bit more specific.

m21sniper 12-16-2006 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ledhedsymbols
It burns me up to hear some of you armchair generals and admirals carp about the military. I resent the implied insult that we are somehow sub-par for being enlisted military members.
I won't spend much of my time by laying out my personal achievements and accomplishments. I'll say this... When you come from a poor family, and are no way shape or form ready for college, why is it not acceptable to do a tour in the military.

I'm just past eight years myself, and I can't think of a better decision I made as an 17 year old kid with no prospects. Screw your intellectual elite attitude. You have no idea what's best for me.

Micah

You tell 'em troop. And thanks for your service. It is apprecaited by some of us.

fintstone 12-17-2006 01:20 AM

+1

tabascobobcat 12-17-2006 04:21 AM

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Originally posted by Seahawk
You are banned, Sir.:)

If I ever leave Concourse ABC in Atlanta, I plan on asking Randy for a beer.

He'll buy, of course, since the Marines looove Navy pilots:D

I'd like to buy anyone from the military (past or present) a beer just to say thanks for providing the kind of freedom allowed to fastpaste to post his *cough* beliefs.

fastpat 12-17-2006 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by rcecale
Careful there, Fint! Keep up with that attitude and you're liable to end up on paste's Top Ten Most UnAmerican Guys On This Forum list.

Look what it's done to me... :rolleyes:

Randy

No, Randy, you're completely a self made..


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